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Author Topic: James MacMillan on Contemporary Music  (Read 1366 times)
Reiner Torheit
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« on: 10:23:07, 03-01-2008 »

MacMillan appears in today's Guardian, in (yet) another piece about whether Contemporary Music has a future.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/01/does_contemporary_classical_mu.html

The hand of certain members of these boards may be discerned amongst the replies...
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« Reply #1 on: 10:33:48, 03-01-2008 »

(yet) another piece about whether Contemporary Music has a future

... though in reality it's a piece about how far-sighted the National Youth Orchestra has been in inviting said composer to talk to the audience before one of its concerts, so as to counteract a conspiracy by hardline modernist critics to suggest that the kind of "eclectic" bricolage he goes in for isn't quite the answer to all our musical problems that the music industry claims it is.
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« Reply #2 on: 10:48:56, 03-01-2008 »

" . . . the introverted, thin gruel and aesthetic limitations of the so-called 'avant-garde'."

That is well put. We have always maintained that there is contemporary music and contemporary music. The B.B.C. gives us too much of the one and not enough of the other. What is lacking at present is the cultivation which enables people to reject and embrace as appropriate.
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« Reply #3 on: 10:51:15, 03-01-2008 »

Right on cue, Grew.
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« Reply #4 on: 11:15:54, 03-01-2008 »

Oh, I think there's a few of us around here rejecting bzw. embracing entirely appropriately. (Even if SE23 was never an Aylesbury postcode before this morning ...)
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« Reply #5 on: 11:27:42, 03-01-2008 »

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a perceived limited musical taste ascribed to its dedicatee
Who is its dedicatee anyway? Evelyn Glennie, or Jesus Christ?
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« Reply #6 on: 11:30:37, 03-01-2008 »

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« Reply #7 on: 11:35:14, 03-01-2008 »

Even if SE23 was never an Aylesbury postcode before this morning

Nor is E17 in Berlin (though Veronika is, at the moment).
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« Reply #8 on: 11:39:50, 03-01-2008 »

(Even if SE23 was never an Aylesbury postcode before this morning ...)
SE17 is.  Though that would be Aylesbury as in the council estate of that name.
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« Reply #9 on: 11:41:51, 03-01-2008 »

(Even if SE23 was never an Aylesbury postcode before this morning ...)
SE17 is.  Though that would be Aylesbury as in the council estate of that name.

That must be it then.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: 11:47:03, 03-01-2008 »

Oh no! the r3ok heavies have moved in.
I wish I could claim to be one of them, but actually having got to the bottom of the article I found matticus had already made all the points that had occurred to me immediately.

Did anyone actually go to this Sinfonietta concert on 5 November, by the way? I hadn't seen that Richard Morrison review (to which MacMillan refers) at the time, but I missed the concert as it was my birthday and I was being taken out for dinner. I'm willing to believe Franco Lara and Hans Abrahamsen's pieces weren't the best things the Sinfonietta has ever played, but I find it hard to believe they 'had the deadly aura of cerebral exercises written primarily to impress other initiates in the new-music ghetto', not least because neither of those composers is exactly part of any inner circle of contemporary composition.
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« Reply #11 on: 11:59:42, 03-01-2008 »

Even if SE23 was never an Aylesbury postcode before this morning

Nor is E17 in Berlin (though Veronika is, at the moment).

Nor is Braccan Heal in Reading, (quite a separate UA), though at around 12 miles it's a bit closer than Aylesbury is to Forest Hill.
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« Reply #12 on: 12:02:34, 03-01-2008 »

I wasn't at that concert either, but those interested can read my own remarks on Morrison's review here. Basically, I'm fed-up with writers who think contemporary music reviewing is a forum for talking to the lowest common denominator in terms of ignorant prejudices, unspecified rants and empty, insulting clichés.
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« Reply #13 on: 12:22:58, 03-01-2008 »

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« Reply #14 on: 12:50:54, 03-01-2008 »

I wasn't at that concert either, but those interested can read my own remarks on Morrison's review here. Basically, I'm fed-up with writers who think contemporary music reviewing is a forum for talking to the lowest common denominator in terms of ignorant prejudices, unspecified rants and empty, insulting clichés.
Indeed - although I didn't expect to find myself siding with Andrew Clements in any disagreement about new-music reviewing. Wink
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