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Author Topic: Don't watch a video - read a book  (Read 579 times)
Reiner Torheit
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« on: 13:24:41, 01-10-2007 »

"When you think of it, the time compression between reading and writing is quite astonishing: the thriller that lasts for half a plane journey will have taken half a year to write. By contrast, audio and video are not lossy compression. They are lossy expansion. They take more time to convey less meaning."

Andrew Brown in the Grauniad:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/sep/27/guardianweeklytechnologysection.comment
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« Reply #1 on: 13:32:41, 01-10-2007 »

Often the book is better than the film but not always, and some poetry comes across far far far better when spoken than written.

The point that 'new does not always mean better' is very true though.

you just never know, for example, dr who audio adventures from big finish are super cool Smiley

http://www.bigfinish.com/
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« Reply #2 on: 14:53:01, 01-10-2007 »

Books are like radio, the visualization is so much more exciting

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« Reply #3 on: 15:27:17, 01-10-2007 »

I hardly ever get around to watching books anymore.  Tongue

lol

But I like the phrase "Lossless expansion" -- I'll have to use that soon
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« Reply #4 on: 15:28:31, 01-10-2007 »

I like the phrase "Lossless expansion"
You would.

There's a quiz for you over in the Coffee Bar, btw.
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« Reply #5 on: 02:23:00, 28-01-2008 »

Interesting, this reminds me of an article I recently read on the New Yorker website bemoaning the decline of reading, and its potential consequences: http://tinyurl.com/yukyxp

Full URL (http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2007/12/24/071224crat_atlarge_crain?currentPage=all)
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« Reply #6 on: 10:52:22, 28-01-2008 »

Interesting article, Adastra Smiley

How far do you think the unstoppable rise of the internet provides a corollary to that trend?  Against the "decline of reading", anyone - not only those with access to a fine academic-level library in their own language - can find prose, poetry, philosophy, scientific research, political tracts, religious works, plays, musicology, literature of distant countries and epochs..  with just a few minutes Googling.  I don't only mean "finding quick answers to informational questions" as in consulting Wikipedia etc..  at least seven of the books I read last year never saw a sheet of paper, and were read off-screen.  I can't say I necessarily "enjoy" reading books on a pocket "tablet" computer, but I was on a longish journey (1.5 months through Central Asia, then a month in Mongolia) and dragging a whole library of printed books with me wasn't possible or practicable.  Although a paper book is perhaps more "cosy", searching through one for a particular name, word or phrase is infinitely slower than with a digitised text Smiley

Another aspect might also be physical access to books.  I live in a location where books and libraries are all around me, BUT books in my own native language are almost impossible to obtain easily (especially new books or titles on specialised topics).  Although I plough through books in Russian at a speed  which isn't frustrating to me as a reader (depending on the topic, style and vocabulary) there would be no point at all in my trying to read Faulkner or Synge or Smollett in a Russian translation, if English is my native language.  These texts can be downloaded from the internet in a few moments, however.

I wonder whether stats on "book-reading" stem from those in the book business, who make assumptions about consumption of a measurable "product" which are not necessarily accurate?
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« Reply #7 on: 11:00:16, 28-01-2008 »

Reading, thankfully, is in the increase overall I would imagine.  Steve jobs said something similar to this recently

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According to the Department of Education, between 1992 and 2003 the average adult’s skill in reading prose slipped one point on a five-hundred-point scale
This seems like a rather statistically insignificant drop to me.  There were some very interesting parts to that article, but I didn't like a lot of the overall direction.  The part that struck me the most was this:

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In an oral culture, cliché and stereotype are valued, as accumulations of wisdom, and analysis is frowned upon, for putting those accumulations at risk.

I'll have think about it a little bit more to figure out why exactly though.

On a related topic, Steve Jobs had the following to say about the development of the sony ebook reader

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It doesn't matter how good or bad the product is, the fact is that people don't read anymore... The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don't read anymore.


And, more recently, a rather more optimistic article on this topic in the nytimes:

Freed From the Page, but a Book Nonetheless

Would you ever consider purchasing one Reiner?  Might save the old eyes a fair bit of strain!
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« Reply #8 on: 11:40:57, 28-01-2008 »

Would you ever consider purchasing one Reiner?  Might save the old eyes a fair bit of strain!

The Amazon patented Swindle, you mean, Incy? Smiley   The idea and technology are good, but the devil's in the detail - it's fraught with the same "exclusive file-format/no-copy/no-share/no-lend" software locking as some music-file download formats. 

Until the day comes when Literature Police cart me away for "illicitly" reading Natalya Mikhailovna's copy of Bunin, I won't be buying a device which doesn't enable/entitle me to lend/borrow titles Sad

.rtf is a an excellent open-access format, and opens on any device!  I simply set the default font to 12-pt or higher, and eyestrain is no longer an issue Smiley

In the Russian classic by Ilf & Petrov, "The Twelve Chairs", the scurrilous anti-heroes are on their uppers whilst in a spa-town in the Caucasus mountains...  so they start charging spa visitors money "for a view of the drop from the top of the cliff" that they could previously have seen for nothing.  The "Swindle" follows in that noble literary furrow, I think?  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: 16:35:34, 28-01-2008 »

it's not too hard to copy over rtf or txt files to sony readers I think.  Excited by the technology, which I've been following for a while, but haven'ts een anything I actually want to buy yet.
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« Reply #10 on: 22:50:37, 11-02-2008 »

I think that there is a massive opportunity for drama (and readings of novels too) to be pod-casted (not just BBC material) and sold onto the internet - after all, the ipod is the new Walkman, and a lot of busy folk, like me, do not get time for TV drama. The BBC has a huge back-catalogue that they could sell, like they do with some older dramas on CD (e.g. Paul Temple, Agatha Christie thrillers). PSB stations in the States also produce some great stuff.

In any case, as others have said, radio drama is far more visual than TV drama or film.
It really gets into your psyche!
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« Reply #11 on: 23:16:41, 11-02-2008 »

I think that there is a massive opportunity for drama (and readings of novels too) to be pod-casted (not just BBC material) and sold onto the internet - after all, the ipod is the new Walkman, and a lot of busy folk, like me, do not get time for TV drama. The BBC has a huge back-catalogue that they could sell, like they do with some older dramas on CD (e.g. Paul Temple, Agatha Christie thrillers). PSB stations in the States also produce some great stuff.

In any case, as others have said, radio drama is far more visual than TV drama or film.
It really gets into your psyche!

I've heard that poetry recordings have had a big upturn in sales in the states (though I haven't seen, or looked for, any figures).  Personally, I've downloaded and listened to quite a few Pinter productions on BBC.  So, basically: I'm sold on the idea.
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