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« on: 11:22:55, 16-02-2008 »
An intriguing article by Kuijken in which he argues for the bass lines of baroque orchestral music to be played on the viola-da-gamba only....

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« Reply #1 on: 14:20:40, 16-02-2008 »
Another extraordinary suggestion; but Kuijken's account suggests a strong plausibility at least. I rather like the idea of carrying a bass-viol on a neck-strap even if I can't remember seeing any iconographic (or written) evidence in support of the idea ('scuse my pun).



The position illustrated certainly looks more relaxed than the typical "horseriding" hold.
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« Reply #2 on: 20:32:16, 17-02-2008 »
Interested in this, and in his comment about Stradivarius. Maybe Byron (who has the book) can tell us what are the main features of a genuine Strad?


the age .... counting tree rings inside a violin?


Quote from: Kittybriton on 14:20:40, 16-02-2008


The position illustrated certainly looks more relaxed than the typical "horseriding" hold.

Hi Kitty, it looks relaxed but would the sound not be duller due to resting the instrument on the knee, reducing the general vibration of the instrument?


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« Reply #3 on: 22:15:14, 17-02-2008 »
Surely the amount of restricted resonance wouldn't be less when rested on one knee, than when jammed between both, though?  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: 23:49:53, 17-02-2008 »
Jammed? betwen the knees??

Surely not Reiner  Tongue


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« Reply #5 on: 00:14:49, 18-02-2008 »
They could be jamming Wink
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« Reply #6 on: 00:24:57, 18-02-2008 »
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« Reply #7 on: 00:39:23, 18-02-2008 »
Hmmm Bryn, doesn't sound like a baroque cello, but, if intended, would you like the message moved to the Grew test site?
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« Reply #8 on: 01:12:18, 18-02-2008 »
Quote from: John W on 20:32:16, 17-02-2008
Interested in this, and in his comment about Stradivarius. Maybe Byron (who has the book) can tell us what are the main features of a genuine Strad?


the age .... counting tree rings inside a violin?


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The position illustrated certainly looks more relaxed than the typical "horseriding" hold.

Hi Kitty, it looks relaxed but would the sound not be duller due to resting the instrument on the knee, reducing the general vibration of the instrument?


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I don't think the sound would have been appreciably affected, cf. the typical hold of a classical guitar (which relies on the vibration of plucked strings as opposed to bowed strings which are constantly agitated).
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« Reply #9 on: 01:22:38, 18-02-2008 »
Yes, I see (hear) what you mean, Kitty, the vibrations of the plucked guitar would be more affected if my fears were real. And of course with violins most players rest the back on their shoulder (though often using a shoulder rest which clips on and removes that contact).
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