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Question: Do you think that, if the various Directors of Music around the country's Cathedrals and Minsters had kicked up a big enough fuss, the BBC would have retained CE on Wednesdays?  (Voting closed: 21:52:44, 26-02-2007)
Yes - 5 (41.7%)
Don't know - 1 (8.3%)
No way - 4 (33.3%)
Yes, eventually - they'd have been forced to - but only after they had dropped it for a while. - 2 (16.7%)
Total Voters: 10

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SimonSagt!
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« on: 21:52:44, 12-02-2007 »

Hi,

Just thought I'd try out the "poll" feature, for anyone interested.

I've set it so that you can only read the "current" results after you have voted yourself. Once you've voted, you can't change your mind. You may only vote once.

It's also set to last for 14 days - ie till 26th Feb.

It's hardly going to change anything, but I think it will be intresting to see what those who listen to and like CE think - so please will you vote honestly? Thanks.

bws to all as usual

S-S!
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Anna
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« Reply #1 on: 22:23:32, 12-02-2007 »

Well Simon of the 3 of us who have voted that gives a 100% result.

Since CE has migrated to Sunday I haven't listened to it once and it was the one programme I could listen to at work, a calm oasis in a sea of troubles
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Thoinot
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« Reply #2 on: 22:25:31, 13-02-2007 »

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Do you think that, if the various Directors of Music around the country's Cathedrals and Minsters had kicked up a big enough fuss, the BBC would have retained CE on Wednesdays?

Of course, this is a hypothetical question that answers itself, isn't it Simon? If the various Directors had kicked up a big enough fuss.... no doubt the Beeb would have  retained CE on Weds.
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Anna
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« Reply #3 on: 22:41:52, 13-02-2007 »

Yes, but it is so CoE not to kick up a fuss isn't it?  Just go along with the Establishment, draw your cassock in a little tighter against the chill airs blowing down the corridors and cycle off down the cloisters in the mist ....
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fundamentaliturgist
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« Reply #4 on: 00:35:37, 14-02-2007 »

trouble is, there's still kudos to broadcasting on R3, both for the choir and for the thrusting director - so to say 'No' to the move to Sunday and for the 'no' to have been effective would have meant at least three quarters of the DoMs to have joined the rebellion.  Wouldn't happen IMHO.

Roll on the dawn of webcasting in the UK! Grin

FL
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cathythinks
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« Reply #5 on: 23:00:30, 14-02-2007 »

Hey, I see we're getting one on Wednesday for Ash Wednesday!
What have we done to deserve this?
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fundamentaliturgist
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Oh Moses!


« Reply #6 on: 23:27:23, 15-02-2007 »

I guess Cathy that if the BBC could have changed Ash Wednesday to a Sunday, they probably would have...!

Roger doesn't have that much power then afterall.  I had a worrying thought earlier today - if Roger Wright teamed up with Richard Dawkins - who would the third person of this diabolical trinity be?? Shocked

FL
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DracoM
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« Reply #7 on: 00:14:44, 19-02-2007 »

Exactly, the BBC has them across a barrel: every doM in the naiton needs publicty to 'sell' his choir, and keep it going in the public eye, and how better than on a nationwide / nay world-wide forum?

It's sneaky. I think the Ely choir today showed signs of metal fatigue, and I guess that that's how it will be.
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George Garnett
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« Reply #8 on: 00:42:59, 19-02-2007 »

Maybe it might have been more effective, well marginally, if Deans had kicked up more of a fuss. They were the ones that got the 'consultation' (hollow laugh) letter about it, weren't they? And I do think the BBC should have got more flak than they did about the tacky little episode of claiming that the Archbishop of Canterbury had been consulted and had agreed the changes when it later emerged he had done nothing of the sort. 

But I did like S-S's idea of Directors of Music withholding their labour: 'Change Days? No Praise!'

It's a bit like the philosophers threatening to go on strike in Hitchhikers' Guide, "And whom would this inconvenience?"
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cathythinks
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« Reply #9 on: 08:56:51, 19-02-2007 »

My guess is that St John's College probably did dig in their heels.
"Sorry gov. It's in the Music List for the Academic year. No we can't change it. No to get Ash Wednesday moved to a Sunday you'd have to consult higher authoroity. No, we don't have access to the right channels. No, the boys are on half term the week before. No we can't record it in advance. No, actually, we're singing it on Ash Wednesday, and if you want to come you can. You don't want to come? Well, it's up to you, but we will be taking advice from our legal department. Right, yes. Those are the terms. We'll wait to hear from you then."
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DracoM
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« Reply #10 on: 13:01:27, 19-02-2007 »

Ref St John's and Ash Wednesday

Uncanny prescience!

I wouldn't mind betting that was more or less how the phone call went. And I agree with GG that Deans had it in their power to exert pressure and I think it simply did not cross thier minds to consult, or, to be fair, for reasons already given, did not think they had room to manoeuvre.

I fear too that some Deans believe that in fact they derive a specific and very direct mandate to play God.

BTW I am DracoM
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