iwarburton
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Just thought you might like to know that the Lark Ascending won the Top 300 vote this year.
Interestingly, Vaughan Williams both topped and tailed the poll, as the Wasps Overture was no 300.
Ian.
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John W
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« Reply #1 on: 10:21:59, 10-04-2007 » |
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How long before Sarah Walker compiles a list ......
Ian, does the Hall of Fame identify which recording of 'the Lark' CFM will broadcast every day for the next year?
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« Reply #2 on: 11:13:21, 10-04-2007 » |
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Just had a look. Usual suspects, yadda yadda...
Just one question: What is "The Ashokan Farewell" by someone called Ungar? It was No. 23 last year, No. 26 this year. Is this a masterpiece I've missed?
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« Reply #3 on: 11:45:04, 10-04-2007 » |
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Ho Steve. Googled led to:-
""Ashokan Farewell" is the title theme of the television miniseries The Civil War, which aired on the PBS in 1990. Fiddler Jay Ungar composed the waltz in 1982 in the style of a Scottish lament (e.g. Niel Gow's lament for his second wife) or Irish air. The most famous arrangement of the piece begins with a solo violin, later accompanied by guitar.
Before its use as the television series theme, "Ashokan Farewell" was recorded on "Waltz of the Wind," the second album by the band Fiddle Fever. The musicians included Ungar and his wife, Molly Mason, who gave the tune its name. It has served as a good-night or farewell waltz at the annual Ashokan Fiddle & Dance Camps that Ungar and Mason run at the lakefront Ashokan Field Campus of the State University of New York at New Paltz."
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #5 on: 12:11:07, 10-04-2007 » |
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I could understand if the CFM Hall of Fame was intended for most popular new music over the last year, or even the last decade, but a listing of all-time greats? is it really going to change much over the course of a single year? why, after all, are they classics Granted, a new performance might bring fresh attention to an established classic. But to me the whole idea seems very contrived.
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« Reply #6 on: 12:34:04, 10-04-2007 » |
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http://www.classicfm.com/Article.asp?id=370441&spid=9443I am reminded of something that Reiner Torheit, who used to post here (wish he would come back), said recently: that The Lark Ascending was only played once in Russia last year. It just shows how nationalities can vary in taste. But is it nature or nurture? Is it what the audience really wants or is it what they're encouraged to want?
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« Reply #7 on: 12:40:27, 10-04-2007 » |
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why, after all, are they classics? One answer of course is that many of them aren't. (Have a look!) I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with The Lark Ascending though it isn't something I'd choose to hear very often. However, Tony's right to ask the question he does. I'm presuming that the choice was made from music which was already on CFM's playlists: in other words, it's the programmers who are really deciding what's up for consideration. It's what the audience wants because it's all the audience knows about.
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« Reply #8 on: 12:47:18, 10-04-2007 » |
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Well I think the CFM Hall of Fame is just an excuse to play the the same couple of hundred pieces of music again and again during the daytime programmes, and presumably some of their income is linked to the playlist, particularly regarding some of the 'classics' that are not actually classics?
When they play these works in the daytime they will, if you are lucky, pre-announce the name of the piece. After hearing it you will, if you are lucky, be told what movement was played. It's incidental information if they tell you which orchestra/conductor/soloist was featured, they never say when the piece was recorded, and they won't ever tell you if the performers are still alive. They often play Karajan, Bohm, Boult, Barbirolli, Menuhin etc but offer no historical reference. But they will tell you if it's movement is featured in their CFM Hall Of Fame CD Volume 65 blah blah
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« Reply #9 on: 13:40:14, 10-04-2007 » |
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But they will tell you if it's movement is featured in their CFM Hall Of Fame CD Volume 65 blah blah
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« Reply #10 on: 14:02:08, 10-04-2007 » |
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I voted in it the first year they ran it as the prize was 300 CDs (that must have been about 10 years ago now). I put Beethoven Piano concerto no.5, Alkan - Concerto for solo piano and Liszt - Ballade no.2. Wonder why I didn't win?
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« Reply #11 on: 17:09:40, 10-04-2007 » |
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I voted once or twice with Verklarte Nacht. As far as I know they have never played ANY Schoenberg on CFM.
I have a sneaking feeling that the lark was played on CFM rather a lot in the run up to the voting. I doubt if the Hall of Fame actually represents anything other than what CFM schedulers had in mind the previous 6 months.
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Stevo
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« Reply #12 on: 22:28:36, 10-04-2007 » |
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Ho Steve. Googled led to:-
""Ashokan Farewell" is the title theme of the television miniseries The Civil War, which aired on the PBS in 1990. Fiddler Jay Ungar composed the waltz in 1982 in the style of a Scottish lament (e.g. Niel Gow's lament for his second wife) or Irish air. The most famous arrangement of the piece begins with a solo violin, later accompanied by guitar.
Before its use as the television series theme, "Ashokan Farewell" was recorded on "Waltz of the Wind," the second album by the band Fiddle Fever. The musicians included Ungar and his wife, Molly Mason, who gave the tune its name. It has served as a good-night or farewell waltz at the annual Ashokan Fiddle & Dance Camps that Ungar and Mason run at the lakefront Ashokan Field Campus of the State University of New York at New Paltz."
Thanks. Well, now I know. It does seem a tad obscure to be pitching in up there with the warhorses. But presumably the denizens of CfM know which hanging chads to count.
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« Reply #13 on: 11:54:12, 11-04-2007 » |
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When they play these works in the daytime they will, if you are lucky, pre-announce the name of the piece. After hearing it you will, if you are lucky, be told what movement was played. It's incidental information if they tell you which orchestra/conductor/soloist was featured, they never say when the piece was recorded, and they won't ever tell you if the performers are still alive. They often play Karajan, Bohm, Boult, Barbirolli, Menuhin etc but offer no historical reference. But they will tell you if it's movement is featured in their CFM Hall Of Fame CD Volume 65 blah blah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Some truth in these strictures but I would except David Mellor from this. He is one of the few who has detailed knowledge of what he's presenting and gives much more info than most others on the station.
Ian.
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« Reply #14 on: 12:04:56, 11-04-2007 » |
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Some truth in these strictures but I would except David Mellor from this. He is one of the few who has detailed knowledge of what he's presenting and gives much more info than most others on the station.
Of course Ian. See in my message, I was referring to daytime shows (and meaning weekday too). John W
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