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« Reply #15 on: 19:53:11, 22-05-2007 »

Increpatio, is your name taken from an Alkan piece ?
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« Reply #16 on: 16:37:33, 23-05-2007 »

Maaaaaybe. 

Won't tell you which one though, it's a *secret*; you'll have to guess which piece.

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« Reply #17 on: 17:40:56, 23-05-2007 »

People here tell me that Alkan is too difficult to play.
I am at a loss. I think there should be some pieces that can be played by an average kind of a pianist.
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« Reply #18 on: 17:56:39, 23-05-2007 »

t-p,
They are misinformed!  As I said earlier, many of the shorter works from Op.63 are not hard - the first of that set is entitled La Vision and is about ABRSM grade 4 - 5.  Some of the Preludes are of a smiliar standard - you can have a look at the scores free here:

http://piano.francais.free.fr/alkan/04_partitions_fr.html

Happy investigations...
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« Reply #19 on: 18:21:24, 23-05-2007 »

Thank you Jonathan. I am mostly performing in secondary roles now, but I like to play solo pieces for myself or even learn some pieces better.
Also I like to encourage my students to play and inverstigate.
This is very helpful.
I can manage Liszt Rapsodies (not all) and even a little more difficult pieces if they are not too long. I can not manage long pieces now. I don't think I was ever that good anyway, but I now with age etc. I have more limitations.
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« Reply #20 on: 20:29:18, 23-05-2007 »

Apologies for shameless self-promotion, but those living in London or nearby may be interested to know that I'm going to play Alkan's Symphony on 22 June at St John's Smith Sq. I have only heard the Smith recording, which had more inaccuracies in it than I expected, since his other recordings do not possess this trait. Can anyone recommend any others? I know of Hamelin, Gibbons and one by an Australian (?) woman whose name I can't remember. The last was praised to the skies by various critics. It is an awful lot less hard than the Concerto, most of which is rather awkward to play (for me at least).
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« Reply #21 on: 20:49:48, 23-05-2007 »

Jonathan

The Australian woman would be Stephanie McCallum. Don't know of any other recordings to recommend but I'm sure someone else will shortly.
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« Reply #22 on: 21:41:27, 23-05-2007 »

Apologies for shameless self-promotion, but those living in London or nearby may be interested to know that I'm going to play Alkan's Symphony on 22 June at St John's Smith Sq.
That concert has already been mentioned on another thread by one of the composers involved, Jonathan (not Alkan, but you might have guessed that). Wink

Welcome to the forum, by the way!

t_i_n
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« Reply #23 on: 22:03:11, 23-05-2007 »

A very large number of Alkan's scores can be downloaded for free here.
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« Reply #24 on: 22:10:26, 23-05-2007 »


That concert has already been mentioned on another thread by one of the composers involved, ...

Could give us a bit of a hint on that one, t_i_n?

[I'll get me coat, (after checking that I have made a note of the concert in my diary, that is).]
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« Reply #25 on: 22:14:21, 23-05-2007 »

I prefer Hamelin's recording of the symphone to McA's. (though the only piece I can actively recall by her is her rather speedy performance of the Aesop etude, which I don't think is half as fun as Lewenthal's), and to Ronald Smith's.  And, I think, though I'm not totally decided, to Lewenthal's, though I think that's also very good (though I haven't listened to it for a while; so I can't recall how inaccurate it is now; I'm listening to it as I type this; it's five minutes through and I can't find anything much to complain about).  It contrasts very well with Hamelin's, I think.  I don't think I've heard the recording by Gibbons.
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« Reply #26 on: 22:26:01, 23-05-2007 »

How's this for a hint, Bryn? Wink

http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=983.0
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« Reply #27 on: 23:36:20, 23-05-2007 »

Apologies for shameless self-promotion, but those living in London or nearby may be interested to know that I'm going to play Alkan's Symphony on 22 June at St John's Smith Sq. I have only heard the Smith recording, which had more inaccuracies in it than I expected, since his other recordings do not possess this trait. Can anyone recommend any others? I know of Hamelin, Gibbons and one by an Australian (?) woman whose name I can't remember. The last was praised to the skies by various critics. It is an awful lot less hard than the Concerto, most of which is rather awkward to play (for me at least).

Big welcome, Jonathan !
Lewenthal - I have the disc
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« Reply #28 on: 23:56:46, 23-05-2007 »

Maaaaaybe. 

Won't tell you which one though, it's a *secret*; you'll have to guess which piece.

  Grin

It's one of the Esquisses Op 63 - No 10.
It seems to be a Latin word meaning a rebuke, reproof or reprimand...
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« Reply #29 on: 13:06:28, 24-05-2007 »

Welcome to the forum Jonathan (from another Jonathan)!

Re. the Symphonie, there is also another recording on Marco-Polo by (possibly) Bernard Reingeissen (may have spelt that wrongly) but I've not heard that one either.  Michael Ponti recorded the whole Op.39 set as well, some of that is on a Vox recording entitled Romantic Etudes (it includes works by Henselt and Tausig as well).  Only trouble with this is he misses the repeat from the 1st movement of the Symphonie so he plays it in 7 minutes flat!  I've not heard the McCallum recording but it's on my wishlist so I'll probably get it at some stage.

Good luck with the concert, by the way.  Shame we can't get to it as we live in Yorkshire!
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