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roslynmuse
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« on: 17:31:07, 07-11-2007 »

Anyone else here a fan of the melodie?

Much as I love Lieder, English and other song, it is the French rep that I return to with the greatest pleasure, from Berlioz to Messiaen via the great, the good, the interesting and the quirky!

Part of it is the appeal of the poetry too, so maybe here is the place to share our favourites in both music and verse and to point out some of the byways of the repertoire too.

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« Reply #1 on: 17:54:21, 07-11-2007 »

Thank you for starting this thread.

I have a few favorite songs from Faure, Debussy, Poulenc -- but I think most people who are familiar with and interested in the French repertoire know about them. I'd just like to point out a book by a fascinating scholar, Katherine Bergeron. It's entitled Voice Lessons, and deals with the mélodie around 1900.

Projected release date: Spring 2008. Oh well, thought it was out by now...

If this thread is still around then, I'll notify youall.
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« Reply #2 on: 18:23:36, 07-11-2007 »

Ros, I played (sight-read!) for a student in a class the other day in a couple of Duparc songs. This seems to be happening a lot with me these days with all kinds of repertoire, and no bad thing either, but even though I'd heard Duparc songs before, I'd either never noticed or had forgotten how miraculously subtle and lovely they are - I'll be pursuing that line of enquiry!
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« Reply #3 on: 19:46:27, 07-11-2007 »

Hector Berlioz Melodies; Orchestre De L'Opera De Lyon. conducted by John Eliot Gardiner. Radio-France-Erato Disques in 1990.

Artists: Diane Montague, Catherine Robbin, Brigitte Fournier, Howard Crook & Gilles Cachemaille:

Le jeune patre breton, La Captive, Le Chasseur danois, Zaide and La belle voyageuse

Nuits D'ete - shared by the above cast, instead of one singer.   The notes say that Berlioz indicated different voices for several of the songs.  Le spectre de la rose, lowered in pitch from D to B, was designated "contralto".   For Sur les lagunes - now in F minor, not G minor - a baritone was preferred, with the optional alternative of contralto or mezzo.   Au cimetiere simply specified "tenor", without optional alternative.  Only 3 of the 6 songs - Villanelle, Absence and L'ile inconnue - retained the original "mezzo-soprano or tenor".

My preference remains with Regine Crespin, on Decca, but my ears also appreciate the contrast and  variety from different performers.
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« Reply #4 on: 22:18:40, 07-11-2007 »

I am with you on Duparc, Martle...  the opening two bars of "L'Invitation au Voyage" would be worth practicing the piano for Smiley  But "Testament" is probably my overall favourite, and if I'm on a Desert Island then please can I have Pierre Bernac singing it?

Now, which of the Faure melodies find favour with the assembled company?
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« Reply #5 on: 23:29:38, 07-11-2007 »

Duparc does it for me every time, it is one of the great musical tragedies that virtually nothing from the last 50 (!) years of his life was not destroyed by him. I gave a class yesterday on Phidyle, which is my own favourite, although L'invitation au voyage and Extase come close. I must reacquaint myself with Testament - it doesn't get done anywhere near as often as some of the others - ditto La vague et la cloche with its rather Edgar Allan Poe like text. Remembering Mart's love of Saint-Saens (!) here's a nugget of useless information: the Jean Lahor who wrote the text for Chanson triste was one and the same person as Henri Cazalis who wrote the poem Danse Macabre, set by Camille first as a song and then expanded into the famous orchestral miniature. And speaking of short orchestral pieces, there's a lovely one by Duparc called Aux etoiles, delicately Wagnerian if that isn't an oxymoron...

Berlioz - I'm with Stanley on Crespin for Nuits d'ete, although my all-time favourite Berlioz song recording is April Cantelo and Viola Tunnard performing La mort d'Ophelie.

Faure - Mirages and L'horizon chimerique - two wonderful short cycles, which, like so much late Faure, are both achingly beautiful, almost painfully so, and frustratingly elusive. I know Le jardin clos and Chanson d'Eve less well but suspect they are of the same high quality. (Again, slightly off-topic, but do listen to the String Quartet if you respond to this style.)

And finally (for the moment) - Bernac singing Poulenc's C is one of my Desert Island choices (and what a touching poem it is too).
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« Reply #6 on: 23:32:17, 07-11-2007 »

C is a killer. Not good to think about it at the wrong sort of times. Especially not if you've had any close connection with the Loire.
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« Reply #7 on: 23:36:29, 07-11-2007 »

Duparc for me as well - wonderful. There's a great Hyperion CD - Sarah Walker, Thomas Allen, Roger Vignoles.
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« Reply #8 on: 23:58:50, 07-11-2007 »

And while we're on Teutonic French composers, let's hear it for: Chausson.

Le temps des lilas, Charles Panzera - heartbreaking.
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« Reply #9 on: 08:28:18, 08-11-2007 »

Talking of l'Invitation au voyage there's Chabrier's setting of the poem too?   You can find it on a very nice disk of Baudelaire settings sung by Felicity Lott with Graham Johnson, in Harmondi Mundi's "musique d'abord" series.  The disk also has some rarities by de Breville,  de Severac, and Capdevielle,  and it's all extremely rewarding material.  Best of all, however, is the set of five Debussy settings of Baudelaire that closes the disk Smiley

I got the disk when we we on tour in Dijon, and the staff of the shop where I bought it were raving about it and practically thrust it in my hand unrequested - high praise indeed for foreign performers in the French repertoire Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: 08:42:09, 08-11-2007 »

French music-lovers in general seem to have a lot of time for "la Flott". (As do I.) I remember reading a review once which took her to task for her 'Home Counties' French and thinking: hang on, if she's good enough for them...

Autant franco- que germanophile, elle possède ce qui fait défaut à tant d’artistes lyriques, une diction ! La clarté de son chant souligne le texte, alors qu’il le transforme en une bouillie incompréhensible chez tant de ses consoeurs et confrères. Et à plus de 50 ans, elle fait preuve d’une excellence vocale dont beaucoup ne peuvent plus se prévaloir à l’arrivée de la quarantaine. Quelles que soient les péripéties, les mimiques ou la gestuelle, jamais la voix ne trahit l’artiste, l’aigu reste rayonnant, à l’âge où beaucoup de cantatrices pleurent les vestiges de leur succès.

(From a French fan's blog.)
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« Reply #11 on: 17:45:36, 08-11-2007 »

  Not to be overlooked in French song is the Maggie Teyte 2 CD collection on the References, EMI Classics label.     A selection of Berlioz, Chausson, Duparc and Ravel.     

As schoolboy, I remember making my way to a Maggie Teyte recital at the Usher Hall in the Edinburgh Festival of 1948 - my introduction to Melodies Francaises.     My favourite from a completely new sound in my life was, 'Si mes vers avaient des alles' (Hugo).

Garry O'Connor's biography, 'The Pursuit of Perfection - A Life of Maggie Teyte - has a special place on my shelves.
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« Reply #12 on: 18:53:54, 08-11-2007 »

All of which prompts the question of which French lady singers we like to hear in the Melodie repertoire?  Bernac and Souzay dominate the male end of things, of course...  but who is doing this repertoire well of the current generation?
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« Reply #13 on: 21:45:39, 08-11-2007 »

And while we're on Teutonic French composers, let's hear it for: Chausson.

Le temps des lilas, Charles Panzera - heartbreaking.
C is a killer. Not good to think about it at the wrong sort of times. Especially not if you've had any close connection with the Loire.

Amen
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« Reply #14 on: 22:36:21, 08-11-2007 »

Why isn't Chausson better known, anyway? Lots of those songs are absolute magic. I remember my jaw reaching unheard-of depths the first time I heard La Caravane...

The thing about C is that I really need Fêtes galantes to follow it. I don't know if it isn't in its own way just as tragic as C (especially that text!) but musically speaking it takes me just far enough out of the world of C that life seems almost bearable again...

(et fuir la vie à la six-quatre-deux)
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