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Author Topic: Beethoven sonatas on period instruments  (Read 915 times)
oliver sudden
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« on: 22:24:23, 19-02-2007 »

The 'Riot concert' thread sprouted off into a discussion of Beethoven piano sonata recordings on period instruments.

Anyone have any particular favourites? Me, I'm a Badura-Skoda man. Richard goes for Paul Komen. Malcolm Binns also has his adherents.
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JulienSorel
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« Reply #1 on: 22:38:46, 19-02-2007 »

Oliver

I think Ronald Brautigam's BIS recordings have, so far, been excellent. (Paul McNulty copy of a Walther piano. I don't know what's planned for the later discs).

The 'Pastorale' on the latest CD is very good.

Weirdly melancholic music. Or perhaps that's just me.

Or Brautigam. Or both.



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richard barrett
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« Reply #2 on: 22:43:23, 19-02-2007 »

I liked Brautigam's Haydn sonata recordings a lot. I could have done with him not using the same instrument for all of them though, nice though it sounds. I would imagine he won't do that with Beethoven.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:51:41, 19-02-2007 »

Opilec

Early start tomorrow, so I must log off (as it were)

For what it's worth

I bought the Binns 'late' sonatas on CD. I know that they are much loved recordings - I enjoyed them, but found him rather staid (the first movement of the Hammerklavier is very cautious).

I like the Brautigam discs a great deal. Lots of life and and danger and a sense of fun. And the piano sounds well (the 'Moonlight' sonata is an obvious 'gain').



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oliver sudden
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« Reply #4 on: 22:54:00, 19-02-2007 »

I think danger is an extremely appropriate word for the Hammerklavier (the piece and the instrument!) in Badura-Skoda's hands, by the way. Right from the moment near the beginning where the dampers make that meowing noise as they return to the strings after the fanfares you know that the instrument is barely up to it...
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« Reply #5 on: 23:58:49, 19-02-2007 »

I don't think they are, Richard.  I've searched and searched.  If anyone finds them .......
Searched and searched, have you?

A recent re-release, it seems?  I'll admit -- I hadn't 'searched & searched' for several years now (it was probably 2002ish), and had given up.  I remember finding a few used ones, but they were all extremely expensive.

Anyhow, nice to know that it's been re-released, and I'll most certainly add it to the shelf ...

Thanks for your help, Ollie.
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« Reply #6 on: 00:14:07, 20-02-2007 »

Ollie, do you know if that recording is still available?
I haven't been able to find it easily by googling. The number for opp. 101 and 106 was Astrée E 7740; the complete set was E 8700 (with the individual discs renumbered 8691-8699 but the sonatas not redistributed). I have seen a Beethoven set from him online on another label but I suspect it's another set, not on a period instrument...
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« Reply #7 on: 10:33:28, 20-02-2007 »

Thanks to Oliver et al., and just to tidy this up here is a link to the 'riot' thread if the interested wanted to look. It all starts from msg 21 onwards:

http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=157.0
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« Reply #8 on: 19:35:18, 20-02-2007 »

wilf is yer man for real advice on Beethoven and his many pianos...

He once posted a real essay on the various keyboards...now vanished into oblivion I suppose as being "off topic"

Hope he makes it over eventually...

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« Reply #9 on: 21:24:02, 20-02-2007 »

Komen is very good, so is Bilson; Badura-Skoda is mixed, I think, but at best extraordinary. Demus playing Op. 110 and the Op. 126 Bagatelles is one of my favourites. And I have a disc I remember liking a lot (haven't listened to it for ages) of Immerseel doing several sonatas on period instruments. Also, if you can find it, check out Peter Serkin's recording of the Hammerklavier on a Graf, at the metronome marks (never been on CD). Full sets from Robert Levin and Andreas Staier would be most welcome.
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« Reply #10 on: 21:30:59, 20-02-2007 »

The Demus Diabellis (coupled with the Waldstein) have recently reappeared as well...
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« Reply #11 on: 22:12:23, 20-02-2007 »

The Demus Diabellis (coupled with the Waldstein) have recently reappeared as well...

They have? Where? I want them Now! I lent my LPs of the Demus Diabellis and they came back graunched to buglery. Please Ollie, do tell.
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« Reply #12 on: 00:23:01, 21-02-2007 »

I can't get you them Now unless you want them as individual variations and mp3s.

But it's on the Saphir label. Just been googling - gosh it's not easy to find is it? Undecided

There's one hidden away here. It's cunningly disguised as a recording of the Waldstein sonata but I can assure you the Diabellis are there as well.

Or here.
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« Reply #13 on: 00:56:20, 21-02-2007 »

Thanks Osie. Bit pricey at the moment, what? I think I might wait a bit after all. Why DG have not reissued it and an Archiv Original Masters beats me. I will keep my eye on the Amazon.de marketplace, and look out for it here. Might try enquiring at Europadisc, too.
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