richard barrett
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Have any of the Wagnerians here read the book of this title by Professor Deathridge of KCL? or know of an intelligent online review of it? It turned up in my Am@zon recommendations and I can't find any further information about it except the publisher's blurb, which promises new insights into Wagner without giving anything away as to what they might be. Given that the book is reasonably expensive I don't really want to splash out only to find it's a "crackpot interpretation" of some sort.
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perfect wagnerite
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« Reply #1 on: 13:29:08, 30-08-2008 » |
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I haven't read it, but on the basis of such of Deathridge's other work that I have read, it is unlikely to be a crackpot view.
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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richard barrett
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« Reply #2 on: 13:31:30, 30-08-2008 » |
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I haven't read it, but on the basis of such of Deathridge's other work that I have read, it is unlikely to be a crackpot view.
What's his general line on things, if it can be summed up briefly?
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« Reply #3 on: 16:20:34, 30-08-2008 » |
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I haven't read it, but on the basis of such of Deathridge's other work that I have read, it is unlikely to be a crackpot view.
What's his general line on things, if it can be summed up briefly? To sum it up in a single phrase, I'd have said determinedly non-ideological - at least on the basis of what I've read, which is his book on Rienzi (a long time ago) and a number of articles in non-specialist periodicals. He reads to me as someone who is determined to get past all the grandstanding that Wagner attracts, and to get back to the sources.
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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richard barrett
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« Reply #4 on: 16:27:08, 30-08-2008 » |
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To sum it up in a single phrase, I'd have said determinedly non-ideological - at least on the basis of what I've read, which is his book on Rienzi (a long time ago) and a number of articles in non-specialist periodicals. He reads to me as someone who is determined to get past all the grandstanding that Wagner attracts, and to get back to the sources.
I think I might well give it a try then.
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #5 on: 16:48:01, 30-08-2008 » |
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Which reminds me, I have just begun Bryan Magee's Wagner and Philiosophy as recommended here. I am finding it immensely readable.
I have booked in for the Goldener Hirsch at Bayreuth. They have parking.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #6 on: 16:56:19, 30-08-2008 » |
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I don't know any of Deathridge's work well, but I do know that I've heard nothing but the highest praise for it from many people whose opinions I respect. (Ian will probably come along and dismiss it as reactionary tosh any minute now... )
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richard barrett
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« Reply #7 on: 17:20:45, 30-08-2008 » |
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I don't know any of Deathridge's work well, but I do know that I've heard nothing but the highest praise for it from many people whose opinions I respect.
Excellent. I think that may be all the recommendation I need. I'll try to make my own mind up whether I think it's reactionary tosh or not but if my critical faculties desert me I know the thought police will not be far away.
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #8 on: 18:31:18, 30-08-2008 » |
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I haven't read much of Deathridge on Wagner - what I have has seemed fine if rather safe. I can't accept the notion of a 'non-ideological' approach to Wagner - certainly to skimp over the difficult political issues (I'm not saying Deathridge does this, I don't know his work well enough to have a view) is every bit as ideological as to concentrate upon them. I don't know a huge amount of Wagner literature - of that I do, I'd say the books by Adorno and (especially) Dahlhaus are the very best. Anyone read Frederic Spott's book on Bayreuth?
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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Robert Dahm
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« Reply #9 on: 04:58:05, 31-08-2008 » |
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I suspect that, in the absence of anyone who has actually read the book, Tinners might have a good idea of what his 'general line on things' is...
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