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Reva2
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« on: 16:39:27, 13-12-2007 »
Thanks in advance for any light you can possibly shed on my ignorance!

(1) flute concerto? mp3 of short extract at http://www.zshare.net/audio/559146530e827e/

(2) Schubert? Beethoven? string trio / quartet? mp3 of extract at http://www.zshare.net/audio/5591401175163e/
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« Reply #1 on: 16:56:00, 13-12-2007 »
1. I don't know. It's not a flute concerto because it's clearly a minuet. Concertos generally don't contain minuets.

2. I would have thought Haydn, perhaps. Sounds like the trio to a different minuet.

In both cases, I think the midi renditions contain some very wrong notes.
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« Reply #2 on: 17:18:00, 13-12-2007 »
Sounds like the work of a modestly gifted A-level student to me.

Oh, and welcome Reva2!  Smiley
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #3 on: 18:02:25, 13-12-2007 »
(2) sounds very much like it wants to be the minuet of the Mozart D minor quartet KV 421. Although it's a bit low and doesn't quite make it.

Can't help with (1) I'm afraid. There is, ahem, certainly at least one very famous flute concerto with a 'Tempo di minuetto' in it (Mozart's 1st, in G major) but this isn't it.
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Reva2
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« Reply #4 on: 18:10:09, 13-12-2007 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 18:02:25, 13-12-2007
(2) sounds very much like it wants to be the minuet of the Mozart D minor quartet KV 421. Although it's a bit low and doesn't quite make it.

By Jove! I think you've got it. Good show!
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« Reply #5 on: 23:22:33, 13-12-2007 »
Nice pics underneath!  Wink

(Please help identify these two-pieces?!!)
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #6 on: 12:33:13, 14-01-2008 »
I also have something I'd like to identify. I have a CD of, yes you guessed it, chalumeau music. The player (Christian Leitherer) has performed a piece labelled as "Händel - Sonate F-Dur op. 5/1". I haven't had any luck actually finding this piece and would very much like to. I did find a recording of the Handel op. 5/1 but this didn't actually seem to be it although I don't remember how reliable the scholarship was on the other recording...

Anyone out there (strina?) who knows what this piece is? I've posted the first two of five movements, an Adagio and an Allegro; the other three are Largo, Bourée and Menuett (it says here).

Nice disc by the way. I heartily endorse it. It was actually what got me interested in investigating the chalumeau rather than just listening to it so it has a lot to answer for. Wink

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ijt29q
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ek6sq7

The disc at Leitherer's site (click on Hörproben at that page for some more)
The disc at Germany's brach of the Brazilian emporium
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« Reply #7 on: 13:06:49, 14-01-2008 »
Hmm, sendspace keeps telling me they're too busy to download the link.

If it's a solo piece then there's no way it's Op.5 - those are all trio sonatas (and no.1 is in A major anyway).  I'll try the link again later.
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« Reply #8 on: 14:18:46, 14-01-2008 »
I think we're only allowed to download a certain amount each day from our files, so try later

I'll go back to sendspace later and see what the free download limit is. I think there are other sendspace sites used by members so some sharing of passwords would help here  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: 23:11:06, 14-01-2008 »
Found it!  It's the fifth sonata in a set (without opus number) of solo sonatas for various instruments, published by Roger of Amsterdam (maybe) and Walsh in London.  In those editions it's specifically for flute (traversa) and is in G major, not F.  I've emailed you more details, ollie.
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #10 on: 23:46:58, 14-01-2008 »
 Smiley

Magic! Thanks heaps for that. Now I only need to work out how to find the dots...
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strinasacchi
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« Reply #11 on: 23:57:02, 14-01-2008 »
My facsimile is published by S.P.E.S. - but be warned, it's one of their more hideously expensive productions.  Two hardback volumes - one containing the two editions (plus a bonus compilation Walsh published later), one full of manuscript (Handel was really sloppy!).  And of course you'd have to transpose it anyway...
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #12 on: 00:03:05, 15-01-2008 »
Transposing is the easy bit. I rewrote the Telemann bassoon sonata a couple of days ago for my newest toy after all... Smiley
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