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Author Topic: Elgar 150th  (Read 1295 times)
pim_derks
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« Reply #15 on: 16:08:39, 10-06-2007 »

Thanks, pim.      I see that I've sent a fuller reply to my earlier comments, but for some reason, have posted it on Radio 3 General Discussions!   It may be of interest to you. 

Too much of the sun, today, I fear

Bws     Stanley

No problem, Stanley. I will go there right away! Wink
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Stanley Stewart
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Well...it was 1935


« Reply #16 on: 16:36:04, 10-06-2007 »

 # 13      Thanks, pim.    Piet, of course.     For Pete's sake, Stanley!

I've appended your notes and song to my off-air DVD-R
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« Reply #17 on: 18:47:24, 10-06-2007 »

Stanley, I've searched the internet for more than two hours now but I can't find the song of Piet Hein: can you imagine?!?! Shocked

The only thing that I found was this rather silly instrumental version (Windows Media):

http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/gvnnl/handler.cfm/event/onPage/pageID/EBCEF95B-6D93-4576-8509-624A639D2594/

Here's the music:

http://images.wikia.com/kda/images/6/69/Zilvervloot.jpg

I'm really shocked about this... Undecided
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« Reply #18 on: 19:47:57, 10-06-2007 »

Not to worry, pim.      It's hot and humid here, today, so I've been passively engaged in transferring last night's R3 broadcast of "Pelleas et Melisande" to CD-R.    Angelika Kirchschlager  Simon Keenlyside in the title roles with Gerald Finlay as Golaud.     Simon Rattle conducted the Orchestra of the Royal Opera House.     A really shimmering performance; followed by Beethoven Str Qt Op 130, with Grosse Fuge, played by Belcea Qt. at last year's Edinburgh Festival.      Four hours of pure magic.

Re Piet Hein, I shall check to see whether the music has been used in the Powell/Pressburger film of "The Silver Fleet".     Ralph Richardson in fine, understated form as the ship's designer and Googie Withers always brought stature to her playing.

In fact, an earlier Powell/Pressburger production was also set in The Netherlands;  "One of Our Aircaft is Missing" (1941) released on DVD, during the past year.   Godfrey Tearle led the stalwart cast and a very young Peter Ustinov made an early screen appearance.  Once again, nicely understated without too much stiff upper lip.

However, I was waxing lyrical about another P & P production, "I Know Where I'm Going" in another place, 2 weeks ago, so perhaps  I should follow their precedent for understatement by closing now.
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« Reply #19 on: 10:38:10, 11-06-2007 »

'I know where Im going'' is one of my favourite films and  I know some of the dialogue by heart.  A most haunting and memorable work of art, and like 'A Canterbury Tale' a profound mediation on the value of life.

I heard Wendy Hillier on the radio recently and her voice really took me back to Mull.
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« Reply #20 on: 12:32:25, 11-06-2007 »

O, smittims, don't start me off again on "I Know Where I'm Going" - tempted to use lower case as per the opening titles of the film.

I only knew Wendy Hiller on a casual basis; a naturally gracious woman who usually had a twinkle in her eye.  She always spoke affectionately about the film and her co-star, Roger Livesey.
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« Reply #21 on: 14:49:18, 11-06-2007 »

In fact, an earlier Powell/Pressburger production was also set in The Netherlands;  "One of Our Aircaft is Missing" (1941) released on DVD, during the past year.   Godfrey Tearle led the stalwart cast and a very young Peter Ustinov made an early screen appearance.  Once again, nicely understated without too much stiff upper lip.

However, I was waxing lyrical about another P & P production, "I Know Where I'm Going" in another place, 2 weeks ago, so perhaps  I should follow their precedent for understatement by closing now.

Many thanks, Stanley. All these films are completely unknown in the Netherlands. I feel a bit ashamed about that. Embarrassed

Anyway: I will try to find these films as quickly as possible. I saw on the Internet Movie Data Base that Peter Ustinov stars as a priest in One of Our Aircaft is Missing. Wonderful! Cheesy

There's still a lot to explore! Cool
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« Reply #22 on: 15:23:53, 11-06-2007 »

Thanks, pim.         "All these films are completely unknown in the Netherlands."

As we're now in direct touch, this anomaly must be remedied. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: 15:45:25, 11-06-2007 »

Thanks, pim.         "All these films are completely unknown in the Netherlands."

As we're now in direct touch, this anomaly must be remedied. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I know a cinema in Rotterdam where they often show old Dutch and British movies. A few months ago, I saw Odd Man Out (music by William Alwyn!) in that place. Perhaps they are interested in these films. I will ask them in the future. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: 20:49:22, 11-06-2007 »

Here's another 'sad reflection' on classical music in Britain on the BBC ........

[...] what Radio 2 did to Elgar's Cello Concerto. Look at the order of play in the live concert tonight [...]


Terrible. Can't R2 listeners take a whole concerto in one go?
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« Reply #25 on: 23:22:44, 21-06-2007 »

I seem to remember that splitting the Concerto was OK for Beethoven's Violin Concerto at its premiere, but I do agree it's a bit tragic to do it to the Elgar CC.  When did the practice of interspersing movements stop?

Tommo
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« Reply #26 on: 12:41:18, 22-06-2007 »

If it had been on Classic FM, you'd probably have had adverts in the middle.

Ian.
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« Reply #27 on: 12:46:23, 22-06-2007 »

A further thought on Friday Night Is Music Night, John.

I recall being a regular listener when the programme used to follow Any Questions on the Light Programme, or Home Service?    Can't recall the name of the announcer (sic) who used to conclude the broadcast, prior to the play-out fanfare, with a resonating "To prove, once again, that Friday Night IS Music Night."       Was it Jimmy Kingsbury?

Valerie Masterson used to be a regular guest and the travesty of last night's programming was high unlikely.   
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I listened to FNIMN on R2 quite often from about 1968 to 1972 but hardly ever listen today.  I think it weas on the Light Programme from 1953 to 1967.  Yes, Jimmy Kingsbury was usually the announcer but Robin Boyle and Douglas Smith (of Round the Horne fame) sometimes stood in.

Whatever happened to Jimmy Kingsbury?  He became Head of Presentation circa 1973 and wasn't heard so often on the air.  He seemed to disappear a few years later. 
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« Reply #28 on: 12:47:34, 22-06-2007 »

Sorry, I sent the last post incomplete.  Is Jimmy Kingsbury still around?

Ian.
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