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Ron Dough
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« Reply #2235 on: 20:16:21, 23-02-2008 »

Mine came from Berkshire Record Outlet, Bryn: $4.99 IIRC.
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« Reply #2236 on: 20:49:29, 23-02-2008 »

Thanks, chaps! Smiley

Will go with Ron's recommendation, as I already have the Kurtag/Birtwistle/Grisey disc included in Evan's set.
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« Reply #2237 on: 21:07:07, 23-02-2008 »

So, for the benefit of Mr Schweik, I suppose that should actually be Švejk, and others, I am rather impressed with this Matthew Passion. The vocal ensemble works better together than in most other OVPP Bach recordings I've heard, the recorded balance is believable and the instrumental playing excellent. I'm not yet sure about the solo singing but I think that might just be a question of getting more accustomed to the intimate style of it, one advantage of which is the feeling of being drawn into the events, not in what I'd describe as an "operatic" kind of way but as a participant in a different kind of enactment which I think probably has much in common with the way it was originally intended to come across. No single performance can ever get to all the depths of this music, naturally, and I won't be rushing out to dispose of either Harnoncourt recording or Gardiner, but I shall be listening often to it.
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« Reply #2238 on: 21:30:00, 23-02-2008 »

Thanks for that, Richard: glad to hear particularly about the success of the vocal ensemble.  What do they do about 16' string bass, chamber or proper organ, etc?  From what I know of John Butt's work, I'm sure it's been given a lot of careful preparation from all sorts of perspectives.  I'll have to wait a few more weeks for my copy, but am looking forward to hearing it very much.

Meanwhile, spinning here now:



Apart from some occasionally strained tenor tone, it's very good, and the Binchois reconstruction fascinating.
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« Reply #2239 on: 21:36:24, 23-02-2008 »

I 'ad that Andrew Kirkman in the back of me Daihatsu Charade once.
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« Reply #2240 on: 21:45:23, 23-02-2008 »

Daihatsu Charade

Is that a car, a book or a film?

I like the Binchois Consort's work a lot. When are they going to record some more of Dufay's masses? And maybe more, er, Binchois? They don't seem to have recorded anything new since Hyperion went through that difficult patch.  I do hope they'll be doing more soon, and that Hyperion will return to this sort of repertoire.  After all, it's not as if it's ... de Lalande. Wink
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« Reply #2241 on: 21:51:56, 23-02-2008 »

Daihatsu Charade

Is that a car, a book or a film?

I like the Binchois Consort's work a lot. When are they going to record some more of Dufay's masses? And maybe more, er, Binchois? They don't seem to have recorded anything new since Hyperion went through that difficult patch.  I do hope they'll be doing more soon, and that Hyperion will return to this sort of repertoire.  After all, it's not as if it's ... de Lalande. Wink

I can ask if you'd like.
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« Reply #2242 on: 21:52:56, 23-02-2008 »

I can ask if you'd like.

Please! Smiley
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« Reply #2243 on: 22:25:22, 23-02-2008 »

What do they do about 16' string bass, chamber or proper organ, etc?  From what I know of John Butt's work, I'm sure it's been given a lot of careful preparation from all sorts of perspectives. 
This is true. Based as it is on Bach's last performing version of 1742, orchestra I has a positive organ and orchestra II a harpsichord. I wasn't looking out for a 16' string bass or the lack thereof when I was listening earlier on, because I'd forgotten about that whole issue and I was concentrating on the voices. The string instrumentation for each orchestra is 2 first violins, 2 seconds, viola, cello and violone, which doesn't give the game away one way or the other, and the 16' business isn't mentioned in the liner notes. More later...
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« Reply #2244 on: 23:43:59, 23-02-2008 »

What do they do about 16' string bass, chamber or proper organ, etc?  From what I know of John Butt's work, I'm sure it's been given a lot of careful preparation from all sorts of perspectives.
This is true. Based as it is on Bach's last performing version of 1742, orchestra I has a positive organ and orchestra II a harpsichord. I wasn't looking out for a 16' string bass or the lack thereof when I was listening earlier on, because I'd forgotten about that whole issue and I was concentrating on the voices. The string instrumentation for each orchestra is 2 first violins, 2 seconds, viola, cello and violone, which doesn't give the game away one way or the other, and the 16' business isn't mentioned in the liner notes. More later...
This is looking good.  Very good.
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« Reply #2245 on: 23:46:40, 23-02-2008 »

What do they do about 16' string bass, chamber or proper organ, etc?  From what I know of John Butt's work, I'm sure it's been given a lot of careful preparation from all sorts of perspectives.
This is true. Based as it is on Bach's last performing version of 1742, orchestra I has a positive organ and orchestra II a harpsichord. I wasn't looking out for a 16' string bass or the lack thereof when I was listening earlier on, because I'd forgotten about that whole issue and I was concentrating on the voices. The string instrumentation for each orchestra is 2 first violins, 2 seconds, viola, cello and violone, which doesn't give the game away one way or the other, and the 16' business isn't mentioned in the liner notes. More later...


This is looking good.  Very good.

Damn the pair of you! Now I've been enticed to order it.
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« Reply #2246 on: 23:52:39, 23-02-2008 »

What do they do about 16' string bass, chamber or proper organ, etc?  From what I know of John Butt's work, I'm sure it's been given a lot of careful preparation from all sorts of perspectives.
This is true. Based as it is on Bach's last performing version of 1742, orchestra I has a positive organ and orchestra II a harpsichord. I wasn't looking out for a 16' string bass or the lack thereof when I was listening earlier on, because I'd forgotten about that whole issue and I was concentrating on the voices. The string instrumentation for each orchestra is 2 first violins, 2 seconds, viola, cello and violone, which doesn't give the game away one way or the other, and the 16' business isn't mentioned in the liner notes. More later...

This is looking good.  Very good.

Damn the pair of you! Now I've been enticed to order it.

Bryn, I hope you've noticed that hmv.co.uk are doing it for £14.99 (free postage) on pre-order. It takes a little longer to arrive (from the Channel Islands), but with the money saved I can get other bits and pieces. Like, er, food ...  Undecided

Meanwhile, spinning now:
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« Reply #2247 on: 23:59:01, 23-02-2008 »

I hope you've noticed that hmv.co.uk are doing it for £14.99 (free postage) on pre-order.

Indeed. That was my first port of call. Always is for forthcoming releases. Wink
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« Reply #2248 on: 00:01:27, 24-02-2008 »

I hope you've noticed that hmv.co.uk are doing it for £14.99 (free postage) on pre-order.

Indeed. That was my first port of call. Always is for forthcoming releases. Wink

Great minds, Bryn, great minds. Cheesy
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« Reply #2249 on: 00:09:26, 24-02-2008 »

I have another port of call for forthcoming releases which sometimes works out even cheaper... Wink
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