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« Reply #3030 on: 19:02:42, 28-06-2008 » |
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Spinning at Green Gables, this:  It came out in something like 1985 and I remember playing it quite obsessively for weeks/months back then. Anyone else a Metheny fan? I think he's uneven, and sometimes downright cheesey, but at their best the PM Group are completely thrilling. I always wanted to 'be' Lyle Mayes, their pianist. This guy not only plays like an angel but is a maths genius and a talented architect to boot. (I suspect a lot of the more sophisticated creative work in the PMG oeuvre comes from him rather than Pat.) |
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« Reply #3031 on: 21:50:29, 28-06-2008 » |
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t.jpg[/img]. Anyone else a Metheny fan? I think he's uneven, and sometimes downright cheesey, but at their best the PM Group are completely thrilling. I always wanted to 'be' Lyle Mayes, their pianist. Without the haircut I hope.  I haven't heard that particular one, and it's not really my kind of thing these days, but at some point I also had a thing about Metheny, being generally interested in guitaristic things. I always found the way his group did dynamic changes very impressive and much more sophisticated than anyone else I could think of in the (vaguely) fusion-oriented vein. More recently he's done some supposedly much more experimental work, which I haven't heard. NS: Dowland played by Hopkinson Smith |
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« Reply #3032 on: 22:05:35, 28-06-2008 » |
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NS: Dowland played by Hopkinson Smith
How is? I have the O'Dette complete set and haven't heard any others in this repertoire, at least not at length. NS: Birtwistle, The Minotaur through pritifully outmatched laptop speakers |
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« Reply #3033 on: 22:09:47, 28-06-2008 » |
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Just found it, never played it I think. Jommelli, Agonia di Cristo. With Sances Sabat Mater and Frescobaldi Sonetto Spirituale
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« Reply #3034 on: 11:15:17, 29-06-2008 » |
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NS: Dowland played by Hopkinson Smith
How is? I have the O'Dette complete set and haven't heard any others in this repertoire, at least not at length. Smith is a more elegantly rhetorical and "rhapsodic" player than O'Dette, which one might suspect (I do) is not as appropriate in Dowland as it is in music written a hundred years later - his playing of Dowland is maybe comparable to Boulez conducting Mahler. Dowland is more O'Dette's territory and it shows (I'm not sure I'd be so keen on hearing him in Visée or Weiss), and he plays the more showily ornamented music with greater virtuosity; unfortunately, the HIP credentials of his Dowland recordings are somewhat compromised by the traffic noise in the background, don't you think? I also find O'Dette's set frustrating in that while in the first volume he plays a couple of the simpler pieces on the orpharion, whose sound I find so attractive I can scarce believe I'm hearing it, he abandons this idea in the other four discs. So I prefer O'Dette on balance, though Smith's is a well-chosen selection and his playing as always has an expressive depth (not sure if I could "quantify" that) which no other lutenist has. |
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« Reply #3035 on: 12:35:35, 29-06-2008 » |
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NS: New music for player piano, by Godfried-Willem Raes, Warren Burt et al.
(I don't think it is going to spin all the way through, on account of being quite uninteresting.)
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« Reply #3036 on: 16:57:40, 29-06-2008 » |
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I can't share your view of Holloway's work; it seems to me (like that of many a British composer, especially those associated with Oxbridge) to have little in the way of emotional content, or to provoke and stimulate the mind, or to enter into some meaningful relationship with the rest of the world and its cultural side; rather simply to exhibit various self-consciously 'musical' attributes which the musically educated can tick off in the right boxes, of which they can feel they are terribly clever/sophisticated/musically refined for having identified. In other words, it is music that serves no purpose other than a wholly reactionary one - to bolster the and help consolidate the socially divisive status of an elite. I think a basic prerequisite for this to be the case would be for Holloway to have anything remotely resembling technical competence in the styles in question, though, wouldn't it? And that, to me, is what he is most often signally lacking. (I speak as something of a Holloway 'expert' but not much of a Holloway admirer.) If asked by people outside of this bottom-patting gentlemen's club what relevance this music might be to them, to their lives, or anything else, I would have to answer 'none' - it's music like that which makes that question itself all the more meaningful, I reckon. I don't know everything of his, and would be prepared to reconsider if any suggested a work to which I might have a different response.
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« Reply #3037 on: 18:10:34, 29-06-2008 » |
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NS: New music for player piano, by Godfried-Willem Raes, Warren Burt et al.
(I don't think it is going to spin all the way through, on account of being quite uninteresting.)
Ah, this one, eh? I can find no information as to how to get hold of a copy. I'd rather like to hear Warren's pieces, for old times' sake. I have to admit though, that his "Dissonant Etudes" are not spun all that often here. |
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« Reply #3038 on: 18:49:41, 29-06-2008 » |
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Ah, I don't read Dutch but have now grasped that the price is €10 + €5 p&p to the UK, and that ordering is done via email, (I think).
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« Reply #3039 on: 18:50:20, 29-06-2008 » |
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I can find no information as to how to get hold of a copy. Here is some: I'll send you mine. |
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« Reply #3040 on: 19:08:55, 29-06-2008 » |
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Thanks Richard. I have sent you a PM.
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« Reply #3041 on: 07:24:21, 30-06-2008 » |
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Spinning at Green Gables, this: It came out in something like 1985 and I remember playing it quite obsessively for weeks/months back then. Anyone else a Metheny fan? I think he's uneven, and sometimes downright cheesey, but at their best the PM Group are completely thrilling. I always wanted to 'be' Lyle Mayes, their pianist. This guy not only plays like an angel but is a maths genius and a talented architect to boot. (I suspect a lot of the more sophisticated creative work in the PMG oeuvre comes from him rather than Pat.) Ive always had a thing for PM's Minuao, for some reason Possibly because I heard the maginifcent Eikhanger Bjorsvik Musiklagg Brass Band of Sweden play it once live, with magnificent vocal contributions from their solo EEb Bass player, at the time. I have both versions, eg PM's one and the brass band one. Personally, I think the brass band version is much better. Should be able to get it on the Doyen label. Full Circle is one of his better albums, I would have to say. |
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« Reply #3042 on: 12:27:43, 30-06-2008 » |
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Spinning at Green Gables, this: It came out in something like 1985 and I remember playing it quite obsessively for weeks/months back then. Anyone else a Metheny fan? I think he's uneven, and sometimes downright cheesey, but at their best the PM Group are completely thrilling. I always wanted to 'be' Lyle Mayes, their pianist. This guy not only plays like an angel but is a maths genius and a talented architect to boot. (I suspect a lot of the more sophisticated creative work in the PMG oeuvre comes from him rather than Pat.) Mart, you might be interested in the q and a section of Pat's site at www.patmethenygroup.com viz aviz the creative process. I shall be at the Barbecue gig on(?) 27th July which reunites him with Gary Burton on vibes. Mayes has a solo album called 'Let Me Count the Ways' of which I've heard the title track-muchly eloquent imho. There's also a dvd of their nonet symphonic scale thing 'The way Up' which I gave to a mate but haven't seen yet-again illustrating the process live. I saw that in Brighton a few years back and wonder if you may have been there? |
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« Reply #3043 on: 12:42:07, 30-06-2008 » |
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There's also a dvd of their nonet symphonic scale thing 'The way Up' which I gave to a mate but haven't seen yet-again illustrating the process live. I saw that in Brighton a few years back and wonder if you may have been there?
I was there Marbs, yes! It was one of the best concerts I'd been to in years, in terms of excitement - and generosity: they performed the entire album, then played in various combos for a further two hours. Three hours playing in toto, just because, as Pat said, they 'felt like carrying on'. Fantastic. |
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« Reply #3044 on: 12:53:05, 30-06-2008 » |
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Marbs and Martle, what you guys think of PMs 'Minuano', from his 'StillLife Talking' album.
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