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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #960 on: 20:34:16, 16-08-2007 »

 #995 FMJ       My feelings towards Ives is a bit ambivalent; intrigued or irritated, although aware that I have a fair distance to go with his work.   However, this morning, his Sym 2 was played on Classical Collection and I was compelled to sit and listen to NYPO/Bernstein; and its feel for the beginning of the last century and its folksiness was thoroughly charming.    Mom, apple pie, bringin' in the sheaves and the star spangled banner, all in one. but done with such a sense of optimism and grandeur.  I wanted to look at the Andrew Wyeth paintings, too.   Probably irrelated but they came mind!

Re Roberta Alexander, I'm inclined to think that it isn't only the beauty of her voice but her innate simplicity which colours the interpetation for me.  She understates which gives me space to hear the lyrics and, yes, appreciate Tan Crone's accompaniment.     I really must download and study the extensive list of comparatives on your lead.   A few rich pickings there.   Good to see the name of Henry Herford again.   I remember him so well at the ENO in the 70s.

This week, I'm in full Britten mode having been captivated by Monday's Afternoon on 3; BBC Proms Chamber Music Concert (repeated on R3 at 14.00hrs on Sat. 18 Aug).  The recital was given by Philip Langridge & David Owen Norris - a combination and a form indeed - consisting of Schumann's Liederkreis Op 24; Elizabeth Maconchy's 4 Shakespeare Songs; and a riveting performance of Britten's Winter Words, Op 52.    The last time I saw Peter Pears at the Wigmore Hall, he returned for an unaccompanied encore, 'I wonder as I wander' and it was uncanny to hear Philip Langridge, with accompanist, delivering the same encore.   Again, a simple Christmas carol casts a spell and you could sense the silence in the Cadogan Hall.   Since then, I've been steeped in several Britten biographies, Journals and memoirs.   One of the real pleasures in retirement. 
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« Reply #961 on: 21:13:39, 16-08-2007 »

Well, I was doubly surprised at the playing of Bernstein's first recording of the Ives 2nd this morning. Firstly because Ives is reputed to have been rather unhappy with what Bernstein (and even more so Ormandy) does at the end, stringing out that 11 note chord, and secondly because that recording has been recently remastered, with superior audio results, SK 94731, on which you not only get the addition of "The Unanswered Question" and "Central Park in the Dark", but also some 9 short pieces by Ives, conducted by Gunther Schuller. I got it because it includes the "Scherzo: Over the Pavements", which plays for a near perfect 4'32". Wink
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #962 on: 22:54:55, 16-08-2007 »

# 997       Thanks, Bryn.     A most enticing programme, too.    I shall pursue.
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« Reply #963 on: 00:12:15, 17-08-2007 »

When you think of the rivalry that used to exist betwen RCA and Columbia through the '50s, to the '80s, it seems qa bit strange to have those recordig together on the same disc.
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« Reply #964 on: 00:14:41, 17-08-2007 »

I got it because it includes the "Scherzo: Over the Pavements"
One of THE great pieces
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« Reply #965 on: 14:28:23, 17-08-2007 »

orff - carmina burana.
cond:


wait for it....




Gunter Wand??!!

it's a real blast, too!
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« Reply #966 on: 17:35:15, 17-08-2007 »

it's on hanssler!
here.

the tenor (ulf kenklies (!)) is *awful*, but everything else about the recording is first class.
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« Reply #967 on: 11:26:44, 18-08-2007 »

An Excellent start to the day with:

Mark Osborn - "Mask of Orpheus", "Vice" and "The Fluid Pronoum"
Maderna's 2nd Oboe concerto
Finnissy's "Catana" and Maxwell Davies "Aves Maria Stella"
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« Reply #968 on: 13:24:58, 18-08-2007 »

I got it because it includes the "Scherzo: Over the Pavements"
One of THE great pieces

IIFC, autoharp, it was my introduction to the music of Charles Ives, in a Third Programme broadcast of a performance directed by Harold Farbermann, in the mid-'60s.
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« Reply #969 on: 14:51:16, 18-08-2007 »

Not quite my first Ives experience was Bruno Maderna with the Orchestra of South-West German Radio doing Tone Roads no.3, Over the pavements + The Unanswered Question. Impressive performances - I still have an extremely ropey copy.

On the subject of Tone Roads no. 3, here's a poser for you, Bryn: who conducted the first known performance ? The answer is not James Tenney as stated in
http://webtext.library.yale.edu/xml2html/music/ci-d.htm
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« Reply #970 on: 15:44:24, 18-08-2007 »

Mahler - Symphony no.2, Simon Rattle, CBSO, and I don't even like Mahler...I thnk that may change!
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« Reply #971 on: 16:25:25, 18-08-2007 »

Hi Opilec, his Liszt Faust Symphony is also the best modern recording of the final version (Noseada is best in the early version which doesn't have the 'chorus mysticus' finale)   Smiley
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« Reply #972 on: 16:53:18, 18-08-2007 »



On the subject of Tone Roads no. 3, here's a poser for you, Bryn: who conducted the first known performance ? The answer is not James Tenney as stated in
http://webtext.library.yale.edu/xml2html/music/ci-d.htm

Well, my guess would have been Slonimsky, but he makes no mention of it in "Perfect Pitch", so maybe not. Not another Stocky job, was it?
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« Reply #973 on: 20:37:42, 18-08-2007 »



On the subject of Tone Roads no. 3, here's a poser for you, Bryn: who conducted the first known performance ? The answer is not James Tenney as stated in
http://webtext.library.yale.edu/xml2html/music/ci-d.htm

Well, my guess would have been Slonimsky, but he makes no mention of it in "Perfect Pitch", so maybe not. Not another Stocky job, was it?

Nope. Here's a clue. 11th October 1963 at the Friends House in Euston Road, London.
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« Reply #974 on: 21:11:43, 18-08-2007 »

Ah, before my time, that, but the does it appear in a forthcoming, long awaited biography?
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