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Author Topic: The Hatto Debate  (Read 3285 times)
oliver sudden
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« Reply #60 on: 19:33:38, 24-02-2007 »

if you like the performance you like the performance, and who is playing is in the end perhaps irrelevant except from a moral point of view.
On the other hand the doctoring process that some of the performances underwent involved some fairly serious changes to tempi, didn't it? What if you prefer the 'Hatto' tempo to the original? I suppose now we'll have to take out our piano records and try doctoring them for ourselves.

There was one reviewer out there I believe who actually spelt out that readers would want to know how the Hatto compared to the performance that was plagiarised. I suppose it's fair enough him not smelling a rat in that he couldn't necessarily be expected to recognise a performance that had been stretched by 15% (something like that, I think it was). But he then went on to give full points for recording quality to something that as a result sounded like a rather gurgly mp3.
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« Reply #61 on: 21:09:21, 24-02-2007 »

O.K., Ollie, in the interest of 'science' I have taken a cassette recording I made some years ago of a live peformance of some Haydn variations, speeded them up by 15%, slowed them down by 15%, (both using the "solo instrument 1" setting in Sound Forge 5.0), pasted all three together, end to end, and made a 160kbps minimum bitrate VBR mp3 of the result. I will send you a copy via YouSendIt, and then post the relevant YouSendIt address here for up to 99 other people to download. This YouSendIt download will be available for up to 7 days.

See what you make of it. ;-)

Give it a bit of time to upload from here. It's about 36 minutes long, in all, so it may take some time for the upload, but downloads should be quicker. Broadband will be pretty much essential.
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« Reply #62 on: 21:53:06, 24-02-2007 »

It should take about half an hour from now to be fully uploaded and available. I have 'sent' it to you Yahoo.de address. The breaks between the three versions are at approx. 10'10" and 20'10".

I will post the download address for others once it is uploaded.
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« Reply #63 on: 22:21:42, 24-02-2007 »

Here you go. It's getting on for 57MB, but should not take too long to download with a reasonable broadband connection. It took about half an hour to upload, so ought to be only a few minutes the other way:

http://download.yousendit.com/1729AA8A3E1C67FD

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« Reply #64 on: 22:46:41, 24-02-2007 »

Thanks, Bryn, looking forward to doing the comparison!
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« Reply #65 on: 23:27:57, 24-02-2007 »

No prizes for guessing the pianist. Just to muddy the picture, there is some flutter on the original recording, which was done on a Sony TC-K661S deck, using Dolby S.
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #66 on: 20:41:59, 25-02-2007 »

I think being at home is the essential bit here! I won't be back there for a week or so and then just for the weekend...
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« Reply #67 on: 21:24:55, 25-02-2007 »

Wel it's not exactly urgent, is it. The aim was simply to demostrate the sort of artefacts likey to be associated with such degrees of temporal expansion of contraction. I might do it again using an extract from something more recent, next time, if autoharp is in agreement.
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #68 on: 21:34:50, 25-02-2007 »

Is Ollie involved in the performance you have in mind, Bryn? Wink
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« Reply #69 on: 22:05:53, 25-02-2007 »

No Ollie. I had in mind something for piano solo. I don't think I have ever recorded your playing. Not direct from your reed, via the air in the venue, to my mics, anyway.
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« Reply #70 on: 22:08:28, 25-02-2007 »

In fact on the two occasions I have performed autoharp's music the clarinets were lying backstage calmly awaiting their next moment in the limelight...

That might get you thinking.
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« Reply #71 on: 20:12:57, 26-02-2007 »

But were all your reeds back there too? You might have been playing Lisa's saxomophone. Wink
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« Reply #72 on: 00:28:48, 27-02-2007 »

Well, well, Barrington-Coupe confesses:

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/newsMainTemplate.asp?storyID=2765&newssectionID=1

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/26/news/hatto.php

Though methinks we have not yet heard the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

regards, Tam
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« Reply #73 on: 19:33:12, 01-03-2007 »

Daripo posted this on the old board. What is it about? http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s4i15549
What has Hatto to do with this band?
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« Reply #74 on: 19:37:16, 01-03-2007 »

Hatto has nothing to do with Deep Purple t-p. It is supposed to be a funny article. I leave it to others to decide how "hilarious" ( or not ) it is.
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