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richard barrett
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« Reply #15 on: 11:40:31, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 11:26:03, 11-11-2008
I think what gets lost whenever something gets orchestrated is ambiguity, no?

Orchestration can have its own ambiguity of course, and Ravel's often does, but not, I think, in this piece, where the orchestration is somewhat less subtle than that of his own music. Even so, the main interest of Pictures for me is Ravel's contribution. I've never liked the piano version.
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« Reply #16 on: 11:54:15, 11-11-2008 »
Brendel's reading is making an interesting case (for me) for exploring other piano versions more carefully. This said, some - though not all - of the more vigorous 'pictures' still suffer a little, IMO, when executed by one player rather than many. What Ravel did in his orchestration seems to open out and make plainer (interpret that as you will Wink) the textures of some sections of this work, even though this meant using his creative licence to whatever degree.

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« Reply #17 on: 12:05:22, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: Kuhlau on 11:54:15, 11-11-2008
Brendel's reading is making an interesting case (for me) for exploring other piano versions more carefully. This said, some - though not all - of the more vigorous 'pictures' still suffer a little, IMO, when executed by one player rather than many. What Ravel did in his orchestration seems to open out and make plainer (interpret that as you will Wink) the textures of some sections of this work, even though this meant using his creative licence to whatever degree.

FK
I'm absolutely with you there - it's the vigour that I think it'd be tricky to match.  I'm not sure I'd feel the same frustration if I had only ever heard the piano version, but I think the added texture in Ravel's orchestration adds so much that I can't forget it and go back to the piano with any ease at all.

I willl look out Ollie's suggestion though.
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« Reply #18 on: 12:14:30, 11-11-2008 »
One thing Brendel does do superbly is the 'Great Gate of Kiev'. There's real majesty in his playing, some beautiful pacing, and the sounds as they reverberate throughout his instrument add an almost orchestral texture of their own.

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« Reply #19 on: 12:23:40, 11-11-2008 »
To answer an earlier comment, I am sure that someone made a version for piano and orchestra but I don't know who...
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« Reply #20 on: 12:58:26, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: Jonathan on 12:23:40, 11-11-2008
To answer an earlier comment, I am sure that someone made a version for piano and orchestra but I don't know who...

  Emile Naoumoff apparently (sorry, can't do links but Google PaaE piano concerto)
  Somewhere I have a 1950s USSR recording of "Pictures" & Prokofiev 7 by Richter- mind blowing but haven't had anything to play it on since 1989 !
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« Reply #21 on: 13:05:32, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: Ted Ryder on 12:58:26, 11-11-2008
Emile Naoumoff apparently (sorry, can't do links but Google PaaE piano concerto)

Here's the link with samples: Pictures at an Exhibition: The Piano Concerto.

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« Reply #22 on: 13:08:04, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: Kuhlau on 13:05:32, 11-11-2008
Quote from: Ted Ryder on 12:58:26, 11-11-2008
Emile Naoumoff apparently (sorry, can't do links but Google PaaE piano concerto)

Here's the link with samples: Pictures at an Exhibition: The Piano Concerto.

FK
And described here: http://www.wergo.de/shop/en_UK/Audio_CDs/1000083/1670340/show,129080.html  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: 19:52:14, 11-11-2008 »
Now I didn't know this existed:

http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/IKVA
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« Reply #24 on: 21:41:30, 11-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 19:52:14, 11-11-2008
Now I didn't know this existed:

http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/IKVA

Jeez, nor did I. With a fair wind, this could become as big as the Wagner Society.  Undecided
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« Reply #25 on: 09:29:11, 12-11-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 19:52:14, 11-11-2008
Now I didn't know this existed:

http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/IKVA
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at least 140 different arrangements of the work, and very likely also the work with the greatest number of distinct recorded performances, which number 619 at present count
Does it really sound like it needs any help with its promotion??  Huh
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