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Author Topic: Chaplin's Music (David Raksin)  (Read 1135 times)
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« on: 20:43:55, 04-03-2007 »

Here is something I would like to share with you all. In this morning's Breakfast programme we had the pleasure of hearing the famous piece Smile from Charlie Chaplin's movie Modern Times. Chaplin was not really a composer, but he was able to realize his musical ideas because he had some very fine collaborators around him. One of these collaborators was Mr David Raksin.

David Raksin did not only work with Charlie Chaplin, but also with George Gershwin, Coleman Hawkins, Arnold Schoenberg, Leopold Stokowski and many other famous musicians. He also wrote the famous theme from Laura. On December 13, 1998 he was a guest in the lovely programme Reiziger in Muziek, made by Mr Han Reiziger, who sadly passed away last year. In an one-hour programme Raksin talked about his long career in music. Marvelous stories and lovely anecdotes (Schoenberg in Hollywood!).

After Raksin died in August 2004, just one week after he became 92 years old, the Dutch television put the programme of Mr Reiziger online. You can watch it here:

http://www.vpro.nl/programma/vrijegeluiden/artikelen/18781272/

The (moving) link is on the right. Click on it to open it. For small band you choose "langzaam internet", for broadband you choose "snel internet". I would advice to choose the Real player and broadband. After the programme starts, you can open it in your Real player on full size.

The first two minutes are in Dutch, the rest of the programme is in English.

Do have a nice time with this lovely film. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: 21:14:14, 04-03-2007 »

Pim, thank you so much for this link!  I am very interested by this generation of emigre composers and their adventures in the Land Of The Free  Smiley   I'll watch the program with pleasure when I am back on my fast wifi connection at home (away for the weekend over a GPRS connection right now).
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« Reply #2 on: 21:17:47, 04-03-2007 »

Pim, thank you so much for this link!  I am very interested by this generation of emigre composers and their adventures in the Land Of The Free  Smiley   I'll watch the program with pleasure when I am back on my fast wifi connection at home (away for the weekend over a GPRS connection right now).

Thank you, reiner_torheit. I will post more programmes like this one in the future! Wink
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« Reply #3 on: 22:43:59, 04-03-2007 »

pim_derks, thank you for posting. I never heard about Raksin. It was interesting.
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« Reply #4 on: 08:32:40, 05-03-2007 »

pim_derks, thank you for posting. I never heard about Raksin. It was interesting.

Your'e welcome, trained-pianist. I will post more in the future. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: 09:46:46, 05-03-2007 »

Very interesting interview - I loved the story of Stravinsky, Balanchine and the Performing Elephants :-)

No mention of the promised material (mentioned in the Dutch text on the site) about Korngold, however...  I guess there wasn't room in one hour for everything...
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« Reply #6 on: 10:36:17, 05-03-2007 »

How can they compose like it is Raksin describes Chaplin would tell him if he wanted the melody to go up or down, etc. And everything had to be done quickly and much of arrangements are in ink right away. It is a husling job in Holliwood.
Thanks again
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« Reply #7 on: 11:18:40, 05-03-2007 »

I was interested to see this. I've always been puzzled to see some people credited with having 'composed' music when they apparently weren't composers.  Noel Coward, for example,and I often wonder how much of Gavin Gordon's 45-minute ballet score 'The Rake's Progress' was actually written by him.
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« Reply #8 on: 11:51:23, 05-03-2007 »

I suppose if one person is not musician, but he just says something like,- I don't like this, can we shorten the section or do this or that, then he is a contrubuter and co-composer.
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« Reply #9 on: 12:31:46, 05-03-2007 »

I wonder whether Raksin felt agrieved at not getting enough credit. I had never heard of him. Perhaps putting Chaplin's name to the music gave it a wider exposure and he was grateful for that. (I haven't seen the film so apologies if all this is explained in it.)

Such practice is not uncommon. The actor Anthony Newly would hum his tunes into a tape recorder and someone else would do all the rest. Didn't Lionel Bart have similar help.

For anyone interested in what it was like being involved in music in Hollywood, I can recommend Andre Previn's autobiography.
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« Reply #10 on: 13:43:34, 05-03-2007 »

No mention of the promised material (mentioned in the Dutch text on the site) about Korngold, however...  I guess there wasn't room in one hour for everything...

reiner_torheit,

There isn't any material of Korngold promised in the Dutch text. It says only that Raksin was active in Hollywood even before Korngold went there. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: 15:17:28, 05-03-2007 »

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Such practice is not uncommon

It's centuries old Smiley  My favourite hobby-horse (proper) composer, Stephen Storace (1763-96) had to work as a hack arranger at Drury Lane theatre until he proved his spurs - and even then, he had to use a slightly underhand ploy (having the theatre's lead tenor, Mick Kelly, announce the premiere of a new piece of Storace's for his Benefit Night, a privilege which impresario Sheridan couldn't refuse) to get his "big break".  When Storace died unexpectedly in 1796 (of influenza, during the rehearsals of his now-lost opera MAHMOUD, PRINCE OF PERSIA) the unfinished score was "completed" by Mick Kelly - despite the fact that Kelly freely admitted he couldn't read the bass clef.  (It's supposed that Shaw, the orchestra leader, harmonised and orchestrated Kelly's doodlings).  However, Mahmoud was such a success (in reality probably due to audiences wishing to hear Storace's last work, and the production being announced as a Benefit for his widow) that Kelly was made Official Composer at Drury Lane.  Kelly went on to produce a series of swashbuckling adventure-operas (starring, of course, himself) - BLUEBEARD was his most successful venture.  Again, some turn-of-the-century David Raksin (perhaps Shaw, or perhaps other hands?) must have been completing Kelly's work and scoring it, because Kelly certainly couldn't.  Nonetheless, the printed vocal scores of Kelly's works show only his name on their covers, despite a fairly advanced Mozartian style in the music.  The tunes of Kelly's own arias - and maybe some of the others - are probably Kelly's ideas,  but it's still not known who realised them for the stage.
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« Reply #12 on: 17:37:27, 05-03-2007 »

Thank you, pim-derks.   I, too. will follow-through.

I'm trying to recall whether Stage & Screen - already much missed - did a commemorative programme on David Raksin with interviews by Tommy Pearson?  I'll check my MD collection.

# 9     Tony Watson's recommendation for Andre Previn's memoir, covering his Hollywood years, "No Minor Chords", as composer and orchestrator, is a must; a real hoot.    Published 1992 by Doubleday (a division of Transworld Publishers Ltd).                Bws, Stanley
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« Reply #13 on: 17:52:32, 05-03-2007 »

Thank you, pim-derks.   I, too. will follow-through.

I'm trying to recall whether Stage & Screen - already much missed - did a commemorative programme on David Raksin with interviews by Tommy Pearson?  I'll check my MD collection.

You're welcome, Stanley. Smiley

I don't know if Mr Raksin wrote his memoirs but he was interviewed several times for various publications. I also think a lot can be find on the internet.
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« Reply #14 on: 11:08:53, 12-03-2007 »

Hi Stanley,

Just caught up with your post. I did record an interview with David Raksin, very early on in Stage and Screen, and it was broadcast - I think! - in 2002. I went to his house in the Valley, just outside LA, and although he was at least 90 by then, David was in fine form and as tough-talking as ever. He had a fearsome reputation in Hollywood during the 40s, daring to square up to mega-producers and directors when everyone else (reasonably thinking of their futures) was sycophantic and quiet. There's a great story about how he got the Laura job (which made him famous as a composer) : Preminger, the director, wanted to use Ellington's Sophisticated Lady as the main theme but Raksin thought it was a stupid idea and said so (to gasps from the yes-men). Raksin was given the weekend to come up with an alternative, original theme. At the very moment he also got a letter from his wife effectively ending their marriage, Raksin sat at the piano and found the Laura theme. The rest was history.

Meeting David and spending the day with him was fascinating; hearing all the old stories, looking at photographs (there's a wonderful one of him standing with Chaplin and Arnold Schoenberg) and talking about  all those great artists he knew. Over lunch at his favourite deli, he told me about working with Stravinsky - and proudly announced (rightly) that he was the only person to ever orchestrate a piece for Stravinsky (Circus Polka). He also LOVED travelling in my hire car, a convertible, which he thought was the height of luxury!


When he died, I played the Laura theme in Stage and Screen as a tribute - but it was, bizarrely, the week when both Elmer Bernstein and Jerry Goldsmith also died. They represented 3 ages of film music : Raksin was there at the centre of the golden age, working with Chaplin, creating lush scores of his own, fighting for composers' rights. Elmer came in at the end of the golden age and brought a new approach, often using jazz, with tremendous and influential scores in the 50s and 60s. And Jerry Goldsmith, slightly younger, represented another generation - one that embraced the old but knew the new; the generation that started in television and then dominated movies of the late 60s and 70s.

Raksin was not only important as a composer and arranger. He was also one of film music's greatest advocates, often popping up on TV documentaries to talk about other composers (especially Bernard Herrmann, who he knew well) as well as lecturing about film music and writing books and articles. He was the last great connection with the golden age and his experiences were unique. His enthusiasm, his no-nonsense style, and his gifts as a raconteur are much missed. It was a privilege to meet him.

It's such a shame Stage and Screen was axed, I miss it (even though I left well before it's demise). I'm afraid Radio 3 has no film music enthusiasts now, so all we'll get is the obvious stuff (like Iain Burnside's programme a few weeks ago 'celebrating' the Oscars), usually connected with mainstream classical composers. But watch this space. Something's coming, just around the corner, that may just satisfy people who miss Stage and Screen. It won't be on Radio 3 (perish the thought) but I can't say more than that at this stage.

bws,

Tommy Pearson
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