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Thought it might be interesting to have a discussion of lieder and song. What have you been listening to recently in this area? I've recently been enjoying Werner Gura's excellent album of Wolf's Morike Lieder as well as the Hyperion complete Faure songs. Another recent discovery was Soile Isokoski singing Sibelius' songs, which is wonderful. Has anyone got any other recommendations, especially those that might be slightly more off the beaten track?  |
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« Reply #1 on: 14:09:09, 06-03-2007 » |
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Not really off the beaten track but would recommend the two recent Lorainne Hunt Lieberson cd's, one of her husband's songs and one of Mahler at a Wigmore Hall recital. Don't think I'm being swayed by the sad circumstances and this from a person who posted a thread a few weeks ago about being a "voice-o-phobe" !
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« Reply #2 on: 14:24:53, 06-03-2007 » |
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Yes, I posted about the Lieberson songs in 'the other place' a while ago. They are incredibly beautiful and his idiom is extremely interesting, with shades of Mahler, Berg and Schoenberg, combined with South American rhythms in places. As for the Wigmore Hall recital, thanks - must look out for it.
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« Reply #3 on: 14:40:31, 06-03-2007 » |
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South American rhythms If you like South American songs, try Heitor-Villa Lobos and especially Francisco Ernani Braga. Teresa Berganza made beautiful recordings of these songs. |
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« Reply #4 on: 16:57:15, 06-03-2007 » |
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Two left-field song composers, coincidentally both available on DG twofers - Barber and Zemlinsky. If you only buy one, go for the Barber. Oh, those Hermit Songs! Come to that, don't miss Barber's Knoxville. Or Copland songs. I have a good disc with Hampson and Bonney - it may be a cheapo warner by this time. Ooops, Syd won't like all this American emphasis, which reminds me that Gershwin deserves mention as an all-time-great songwriter Sorry Syd. |
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« Reply #5 on: 23:11:15, 06-03-2007 » |
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Know very little lieder however recently heard Messiaen's Harawi (performers unknown) but thought was pretty special - does anyone know this work and who the best soprano is for this work  |
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« Reply #6 on: 23:20:21, 06-03-2007 » |
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Great recording by Jane Manning and (I think) David Mason; also fond memories of Noelle Barker and Robert Sherlaw Johnson.
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« Reply #7 on: 09:42:39, 07-03-2007 » |
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One of the finest of all English song cycles, Gurney's Ludlow and Teme, which seems to be surprisingly little known (perhaps because although it exists in a piano and voice version, it requires a string quartet to do it justice). The second song, "Far in a western brookland", is heart-rendingly lovely - even finer, I think, than Gurney's best-known song, "Sleep" - and worth the price of the disc on its own... ...and this for the 4 wonderful songs of W Denis Browne, killed in the Dardanelles campaign. Oh, and how could I forget Douglas Lilburn's "Sings Harry" - 6 delightful songs in 10 minutes, each one better than the last, and a fine miniature summary of New Zealand character and outlook. Versions for baritone with piano, and for tenor with guitar, on this disc - I like them equally well. |
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« Reply #8 on: 23:13:26, 07-03-2007 » |
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To Roslynmuse Re Harawi -many tks yr info re jane manning - great so many well informed people on here |
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« Reply #9 on: 18:51:46, 08-03-2007 » |
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Two left-field song composers, coincidentally both available on DG twofers - Barber and Zemlinsky.
If you only buy one, go for the Barber. Oh, those Hermit Songs! Come to that, don't miss Barber's Knoxville. Or Copland songs. I have a good disc with Hampson and Bonney - it may be a cheapo warner by this time.
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« Reply #10 on: 20:33:35, 08-03-2007 » |
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Hi, operacat. Glad to see that you've invested in the Barber 2 CD set. Full of goodies. You may recall that we posted on t'other MBs re Thomas Hampson, along with Mahlerian, if my memory is accurate.
My DVD of Simon Boccanegra, TH & Gatti, has now arrived and is eagerly anticipated but Herr Wagner will claim priority with the first of a three part series "Hitler & the Wagner Clan" which promises lots of Bayreuth footage, along with Winifred's influence. BBC 4; 19.10hrs on 3 consecutive Friday's from 9 March. Late on Saturday evening, Covent Garden's "Siegfried" will follow on BBC 2.
Re TH, my sort-out has revealed further off-air recordings: The final concert in a Chas Ives Weekend, R 3 Jan 96, which TH shared with Dawn Upshaw and Craig Rutenberg (piano). The theme of the first part of the prog. was Nature's Cycles; the second part reflected The Human Cycle. I have vague memories of simple ballads to the most complex and dissonant philosophical discourses.
My next find was the Covent Garden "Parsifal", Dec 2001, with Simon Rattle and TH as Amfortas. I bet you were there! A marathon at 4hrs & 53 mins.
Finally, an audio cassette - MUST go to CD-R on this one: TH in Concert at the Konzerthaus in Vienna, R3, Feb 1994: Franz, Loewe, Schumann, Grieg, VW, Neidlinger, Naginski, Bernstein (To what you say), John Duke, Vittorio Giannini, Walter Damrosch, Copland (Old American Songs) and Haydn Wood (Picardy). Can't wait to hear that lot after so long. All probably old hat to you?
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« Reply #11 on: 15:03:52, 09-03-2007 » |
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Hi, operacat. Glad to see that you've invested in the Barber 2 CD set. Full of goodies. You may recall that we posted on t'other MBs re Thomas Hampson, along with Mahlerian, if my memory is accurate.
My DVD of Simon Boccanegra, TH & Gatti, has now arrived and is eagerly anticipated but Herr Wagner will claim priority with the first of a three part series "Hitler & the Wagner Clan" which promises lots of Bayreuth footage, along with Winifred's influence. BBC 4; 19.10hrs on 3 consecutive Friday's from 9 March. Cd. you do me a HUGE favour and make a copy of this for me??!!! I don't have access to BBC4. I think Alison will make me a copy of Siegfried - Mr. Operacat has expressed very definite opinions as to the viability of our relationship continuing if I insist on watching it!  Late on Saturday evening, Covent Garden's "Siegfried" will follow on BBC 2. Re TH, my sort-out has revealed further off-air recordings: The final concert in a Chas Ives Weekend, R 3 Jan 96, which TH shared with Dawn Upshaw and Craig Rutenberg (piano). The theme of the first part of the prog. was Nature's Cycles; the second part reflected The Human Cycle. I have vague memories of simple ballads to the most complex and dissonant philosophical discourses.
My next find was the Covent Garden "Parsifal", Dec 2001, with Simon Rattle and TH as Amfortas. I bet you were there! A marathon at 4hrs & 53 mins. Yes, I have written about that, you can read my review at http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/leonora/parsifal html Finally, an audio cassette - MUST go to CD-R on this one: TH in Concert at the Konzerthaus in Vienna, R3, Feb 1994: Franz, Loewe, Schumann, Grieg, VW, Neidlinger, Naginski, Bernstein (To what you say), John Duke, Vittorio Giannini, Walter Damrosch, Copland (Old American Songs) and Haydn Wood (Picardy). Can't wait to hear that lot after so long. All probably old hat to you? Some of these somgs are on the compilation " Thomas Hampson - a portrait" (I have a signed copy! I mean, he signed it for me after MACBETH at Covent Garden). I was listening to it this morning - love " Roses of Picardy"! Bws, Stanley [/quote] |
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #13 on: 21:41:25, 09-03-2007 » |
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# 11 & 12 Hi, operacat. Yes, of course I'll compile a DVD of the Wagner/Bayreuth series for you - Parts 2 & 3 will be shown over the next 2 Friday's. A good start, tonight, with the arrival of Winifred in 1914 and subsequent marriage to Siegfried. She was obviously a formidable operator and even managed to acquire funding for Bayreuth from Henry Ford,quite openly anti-semite. I'd forgotten about the Sybergberg documentary interview with Winifred which caused such a hiatus in the early 70's. Think I had to go to the Academy Cinema (near Oxford Circus) to see it. Let's hope that BBC 4 may give it an airing after the series has ended. I'll be in touch in due course. Bws Stanley
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #14 on: 17:53:12, 16-03-2007 » |
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# 9 - 12. Hi. operacat. Here's a how d'y do! Apparently, the Wagner Clan/Bayreuth programme is, in fact, a one-off; not in 3 parts as publicity suggested. I've look at my recording and the coverage ends with Hitler's bunker suicide in 1945 and a fast forward to 1951 when visitors to the reopened Festspielhaus were invited to engage in the music and not debate politics!
Anyhow, I can now proceed with a DVD transfer leaving ample room for an additional programme. Is my memory accurate when I recall your disappointment that the Paris Chatelet production of "Candide" was to be shown on BBC 4 as, again, you didn't have access? Did you manage to get a copy? If not, it would comfortably slot-in alongside the Bayreuth programme.
No problem as far as I'm concerned as it will be sent with my compliments.
And so, another dawn-patrol outing with "Gotterdammerung" tomorrow. Have you managed to pacify Mr o.c?
Bws, Stanley
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