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« Reply #105 on: 21:43:54, 08-01-2008 » |
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Well, I should probably buy fewer instruments and practise the ones I have. Is that two NYRs or one?
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« Reply #106 on: 22:06:21, 08-01-2008 » |
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The main body of the instrument is a little over 63cm. The chimney thing is a little over 10cm long. There are also two little wooden stoppers at the bottom which stick out by about a centimetre. They're there so you can dry out the curved bit of the bore after playing. strina, the mouthpiece is very definitely not plastic  but a dark wood - I should really have asked which but I didn't. I will though. On the other hand the mouthpiece is indeed something the maker has to come up with, as is the pipe. The original is in the Museum Carolino Augusteum in Salzburg and was labelled sordune for many years until someone took a closer look. (Kurt Birsak in the early '70s as far as I can tell.) It plays as low as a bassoon since it's a single-reed cylindrical bore instrument. It's pitched at a'=415. There are pictures of the original in Faszination Klarinette (ed. Restel & Fricke, Prestel 2004 - the book of the 2004-5 clarinet exhibition at the musical instrument museum in Berlin) and The Baroque Clarinet (Rice, OUP 1992). Soundclip, hm, that's an idea. Before too long. Just let me practise a bit first. Mort, my new year's semi-resolution was made after this instrument had been paid for and completed but before I picked it up.  |
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« Reply #107 on: 22:27:02, 08-01-2008 » |
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strina, the mouthpiece is very definitely not plastic but a dark wood - I should really have asked which but I didn't. I will though. On the other hand the mouthpiece is indeed something the maker has to come up with, as is the pipe. Phew, the authenticity police are much relieved. Sorry if I seem to have doubted you! Am I being an idiot if I say it looks a lot like a dulcian? Would dulcians still have been used much in the early 18th century? |
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« Reply #108 on: 22:47:38, 08-01-2008 » |
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Am I being an idiot if I say it looks a lot like a dulcian? Well, since it does at least look a fair bit like one (in particular in being made basically from a single bit of wood rather than two or three as a bassoon is), no. Would dulcians still have been used much in the early 18th century? I'm led to believe they were well and truly on the way out by then but still around. You couldn't say the basson di chalumeau was ever used much anyway. Colin Lawson mentions parts for it in operas by Fux ( Julo Ascanio), G. Bononcini ( Il Mario Fuggitivo, L'Abdolomino, Muzio Scevola, Il Natale di Giunone), A.M. Bononcini ( La Conquista della Spagne, Il Trionfo della Grazia) and Attilio Ariosti ( Marte Placato), and in an aria Joseph I wrote for M.A. Ziani's opera Chilonida. As Lawson's book is pretty encyclopaedic that would seem to be it. According to the book they're all dated 1707-1710... |
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« Reply #109 on: 23:07:37, 08-01-2008 » |
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According to the book they're all dated 1707-1710... Wonderful! No more must we endure philistines peddling the inauthentic performance of these nine works from the latter part of the second half of the first decade of the eighteenth century . A recent(-ish) acquisition of my own is an Italian triple harp, although (unlike Ollie) have no mad skillz on (even tangentially) related instruments, so I'm still very much at the 'pluck string, make noise' end of the learning curve. |
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« Reply #110 on: 23:10:04, 08-01-2008 » |
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(even tangentially) related instruments  boom tish  |
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« Reply #111 on: 23:32:21, 08-01-2008 » |
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Just bought myself yet another minidisc recorder (it's my 6th!) It arrived this afternoon from Amazon.  I love them  |
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« Reply #112 on: 23:50:03, 08-01-2008 » |
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boom tish Nice CD that. |
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« Reply #113 on: 00:15:57, 09-01-2008 » |
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The main body of the instrument is a little over 63cm. The chimney thing is a little over 10cm long. There are also two little wooden stoppers at the bottom which stick out by about a centimetre. Hey Ollie, no prize for my 73cms guess  |
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« Reply #114 on: 10:16:14, 09-01-2008 » |
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Oh my goodness! You have one too? |
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« Reply #115 on: 13:22:37, 10-01-2008 » |
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You couldn't say the basson di chalumeau was ever used much anyway. Colin Lawson mentions parts for it in operas by Fux (Julo Ascanio), G. Bononcini (Il Mario Fuggitivo, L'Abdolomino, Muzio Scevola, Il Natale di Giunone), A.M. Bononcini (La Conquista della Spagne, Il Trionfo della Grazia) and Attilio Ariosti (Marte Placato), and in an aria Joseph I wrote for M.A. Ziani's opera Chilonida. I propose a revival of one of the Bononcini works with intercalated passages in modern style by Signor Richard Barrett. Which 73cm guess would that be, btw, John? |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #116 on: 13:28:11, 10-01-2008 » |
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Andy D,
What is minidisc recorder? Are there small discks now? I am always behind with technology.
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« Reply #117 on: 14:12:02, 10-01-2008 » |
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You're way behind, t-p: MD has been with us for well over ten years, though it never quite established itself the way that many of us felt it should have. The discs are totally enclosed in a small plastic case about 7 cm square by 4mm thick, so rather dinky, and seemed to be the way forward for home and portable recording before recordable CD and then mp3 and the various other solid-state memory devices became available; smaller and more durable than a cassette, they still seem unwieldy when you realise just how many you need to store what can be fitted onto an iPod or similar, even the latest high-capacity ones which Andy D uses.
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« Reply #118 on: 14:22:05, 10-01-2008 » |
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Hi t-p Minidiscs have been around since the early 90s but they've never really caught on in the way that ipods have. The discs are smaller than CDs and look more like computer floppies:  Sony, who invented them, seems pretty half-hearted about them now so they might very well disappear soon. They tried to compete with ipods for a while but now they seem to be aiming at live recording enthusiasts. I think they're a great system though and have about 1000 MDs so I'll carry on using them as long as I can. Hence why I bought another recorder. (Oh I see that Ron has already said most of this) |
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« Reply #119 on: 14:39:14, 10-01-2008 » |
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they still seem unwieldy when you realise just how many you need to store what can be fitted onto an iPod or similar, even the latest high-capacity ones which Andy D uses.
You're right Ron but it's horses for courses. I did think about getting an ipod a couple of years ago but I don't travel enough to make it worthwhile. When my niece went to Oz for 6 months a couple of years ago she put all her CDs onto an ipod, whereas someone else she knows took loads of MDs - obviously not a good idea for that sort of trip. However I can get about 35 CDs onto a 1GB MD @64kbps which is ideal for travelling around on the bus or train - the quality's good enough for that sort of listening. But I don't use MDs for doing all my recording, I also use CDs and hard discs. |
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