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brassbandmaestro
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« Reply #255 on: 13:51:39, 21-10-2008 »
They certainly do not Rubes! Especially when one is in my sit ofcourse, but still there we go!

Well, managed to buy 5 cds today!! So hopefully they wont take too long in arrving. World of Brass, in the past have taken their rime in sending their orders. Have to wait and see.
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« Reply #256 on: 20:54:54, 27-10-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 19:14:35, 09-10-2008
one surprising aspect is that according to the booklet, the remastering of Chronochromie (Dorati) is that published in 1991, rather than the new remastering issued a month or so ago. However, the track timings given in the new set's booklet accord with those of the 2008 remastering, not the 1991 as credited. Too many other items in the set cry out for earlier audition than Chronochromie, but I will report back when I get round to listening to it.
Please do - I already have the Quatuor which appears on the new single-disc Chronochromie coupling, so it'll save me buying that again if I can get the 2008 Chronochromie remastering in the EMI boxed set (which I may well put on my birthday list if so!).

Re Le Merle noir, I have the Emmanuel Pahud recital from 1997 which includes that work (acc. Eric Le Sage), so if you want any details which would help you confirm it's the same recording in the Messiaen box, just let me know. The track timing on the Pahud recital is 5'57", btw.
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« Reply #257 on: 20:26:46, 28-10-2008 »
For reasons which I will not go into here, I am currently only getting one 15 minute break during each days work at the moment (something about which I have no complaint). Today I used that break to nip down to the local Oxfam shop and check what, if any, new CD stock it had. With so little time to make decisions I came away with seven purchases:

Messiaen - Vingt Regards - Chauveau (Forlane UCD 16709/10)
Marenzio - Cantiones Sacrae - Corrende, Nevel (Eudofa 1313)
Desprez - Missa "L'Homme Armé Sexti Toni" & Chansons - Ens. Obsidienne, Bonnardot (Caliope CAL 9305)
Schütz - Musikalishe Exequien - Monteverdi Coir, EBS, HMS&C, JEG (Archiv 423 405-2)
Haydn - Symphonies 94 & 96 - AAM, Hogwood (O-L 414 330-2)

plus a couple I already knew well: Brahms Complete Trios - Beaux Arts Trio, etc. - (Philips 438 365-2), and Adams - Road Movies (Nonesuch 7559 - 79699-2) which I will pass on to someone else.

Any comments on the first five? [I know the Chauveau Vingt Regards is not well regarded, but at £2.99 I was willing to give it a chance.]
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« Reply #258 on: 21:53:47, 28-10-2008 »
Blimey. How much did all that set you back, Bryn?
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« Reply #259 on: 22:17:45, 28-10-2008 »
£20.93, martle. The Messiaen was priced up at £3.99, but the woman at the till insisted that I should pay just £2.99 for it, as that was the price on each of the others.

I have just opened the booklet for the Marenzio CD. The head and shoulders photo of Evik Van Nevel could easily be mistaken for a certain Ian Pace. I hope he has not been moonlighting. Wink
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« Reply #260 on: 17:58:56, 04-11-2008 »
This:



arrived yesterday. It's claim to completeness is qualified by Claude Samuel in the introduction. It includes all the works Messiaen listed as other than rubbish in a letter to Samuel in 1986, plus later works, including the completion by Yvonne Loriod of "Concert à quatre". There is no "Dame de Shalott" for instance. At less than £2 a disc from MDT, it's a no-brainer. Just put the duplicates in your collection up for sale on ebay or Amazon marketplace. Wink
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« Reply #261 on: 18:09:08, 04-11-2008 »
I wonder if Messiaen would have listed Yvonne Loriod's completion of the Concert à quatre as 'anything other than rubbish' if he'd lived to hear it (not that she would have been completing it if he had, but you know what I mean). It sure don't sound like Messiaen.

Bryn, have you had chance to investigate the matter of EMI re-masterings you raised recently, and which I alluded to in my post #256? I'd be very interested to have confirmation on this ...
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« Reply #262 on: 20:06:34, 04-11-2008 »
I'll get back to you on that, t_i_n man. My attention is currently distracted by a certain Mr. Brendel, who is playing (or rather, a recording of him playing is being broadcast) a sonata to which I was introduced via John Tilbury's "The Sound of Music" at Wigmore Hall, back in 1969 (IIRC).
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« Reply #263 on: 21:42:33, 04-11-2008 »
Right. All three versions of the Dorati recording of Chronochromie differ somewhat. The one in the EMI boxed set claims to be the same as that on the EMI France disc of 1991, but it's not. It is quite similar to the 2008 remastering, but at a slightly lower level. The most glaring tape fault is at about 2'03" into the Coda. Here is a short clip containing the tape fault, in six iterations. First is the raw 1991 transfer, then comes the 2008 remastering, then that from the boxed set. Those three are then repeated, but with the levels of the first and third adjusted to match that of the 2008 remastering. I have left the file in wav format since it is pretty short in total.

The 2008 remastering does a better job of compensating for the tape fault than does the 1991 EMI France transfer, and to me the one used in the boxed set sounds just about identical to the 2008 remastering once the level is adjusted. Have a listen and make your own mind up. Wink
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« Reply #264 on: 22:50:17, 04-11-2008 »
You are a clever man, Bryn.

Thanks for that. Smiley
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« Reply #265 on: 22:58:28, 04-11-2008 »
Hmm. Universal seem to think their recording of Oiseaux Exotiques, (Thibaudet/RCO/Chailly), pretty special. They have included it in both:



just released, and:



due out next Monday.
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« Reply #266 on: 23:04:08, 04-11-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 22:58:28, 04-11-2008
Hmm. Universal seem to think their recording of Oiseaux Exotiques, (Thibaudet/RCO/Chailly), pretty special.

And is it?
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« Reply #267 on: 23:06:22, 04-11-2008 »
I think it's more likely to be 'special' in the Spanish sense of the word than in any sense which would recommend it here.

Presumably they included it in both boxes because they didn't bank on people buying both? Wink
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« Reply #268 on: 23:17:18, 04-11-2008 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 23:04:08, 04-11-2008
Quote from: Bryn on 22:58:28, 04-11-2008
Hmm. Universal seem to think their recording of Oiseaux Exotiques, (Thibaudet/RCO/Chailly), pretty special.

And is it?

Not listened to it yet, nor is it that high on my list of priority items for an earing[sic], from either box. Wink
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« Reply #269 on: 23:44:36, 04-11-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 22:58:28, 04-11-2008


A big minus for DG, for not including an at-a-glance guide to what's on each CD.

The CDs themselves, in windowed paper sleeves, simply bear the disc number; no indication of what's on them, so you have to search through pages and pages of the detailed track listings. Or alternatively look at the alphabetical index of works. An at-a-glance guide would have been very useful, but obviously too much to ask for. Sad
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