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« on: 18:06:47, 27-05-2008 »

According to the Radio Times that came out today on BBC4 on Thursday next week at 11.45PM another repeat of the Simon Bolivar Youth Orch concert including DSCH 10.I would hope anyone who missed it live or a repeat would be able to catch it this time.INHO well worth seeng.
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« Reply #1 on: 19:10:25, 27-05-2008 »

Thanks for that information. I missed the live broadcast, but obviously heard all the praise the concert received. I managed to see the last part of it when it was repeated last year and was amazed by it; I had thought that the reception it got was exaggerated, but I was wrong. It was stunning!! I will certainly record it this time; such exuberant performances will lift the spirits time and time again.
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« Reply #2 on: 19:16:45, 27-05-2008 »

I thought the whole thing was over-rated, geeesh people have had fun with music before that lot  Wink


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« Reply #3 on: 19:17:55, 27-05-2008 »

It was stunning!! I will certainly record it this time; such exuberant performances will lift the spirits time and time again.

I can heartily recommend this new release, then...

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« Reply #4 on: 19:31:05, 27-05-2008 »

Thanks 338. Will make a date with that.

The next chance to see them live in the UK looks like being 14 and 18 April 2009 at the Royal Festival Hall. Bartok Concerto for Orchestra the first night and Stravinsky The Rite of Spring the second. Already selling fast.
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« Reply #5 on: 21:49:23, 23-10-2008 »

This evening SkyArts has shown a concert they gave last year in Lucerne. Just as invigorating as the Prom they gave in 2007 and, in a way, even more touching, since they were playing to a rather straight-laced audience. The transformation of the audience as the excitement built in the last twenty minutes was wonderful to watch.

It's being repeated tomorrow if anyone wants to Sky+ it!
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« Reply #6 on: 21:51:45, 23-10-2008 »

I caught the last forty minutes or so. Worth pointing out that it's on SkyArts 2, Channel 257. I'm hoping that with the split channels, more classical/ opera will be on during the evenings.
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« Reply #7 on: 22:04:04, 23-10-2008 »

I caught the last forty minutes or so. Worth pointing out that it's on SkyArts 2, Channel 257. I'm hoping that with the split channels, more classical/ opera will be on during the evenings.

Sorry. I should have pointed out which channel it was on. They seem to be reserving SkyArts 2 for opera/classics, etc; and I must commend them for the wide range they show. (I can hear Michael Nyman in the distance as I write this.) It certainly puts other television channels to shame, including those we all pay for!

Do you agree with my  remark about the audience in Lucerne? Certainly an older average age than the Prom later in the year.
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« Reply #8 on: 23:43:25, 23-10-2008 »

Thanks for the heads-up. Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: 13:13:30, 26-10-2008 »

Among other things on BBC4 next week, including Maddy Prior on Monday (00.30 tonight), is this, on Friday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00f815k.
Nathan Mironovich Milstein. An obscure virtuoso fiddler I have never heard of, so no suprise there then Eh.
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« Reply #10 on: 22:03:21, 27-10-2008 »

I watched the SkyArts recording of the Dudamel concert again tonight. Apart from the wonderful music-making, I was struck by the contrast with the current BBC approach to broadcasting serious music. There was no spoken commentary or introduction throughout the broadcast; we were just given visual titles. The audience was treated as adults. We either knew about the orchestra or we were assumed to have the initiative to find out.

How would this have differed if it had been recorded by the BBC?  Patronising introductions, film of rehearsals, the players leaving home for auditions, reactions of parents, interviews with audience members, a commentary telling us what the conductor was feeling - all these horrors and more, I suspect. Even the camera work was unobtrusive and efficient.

How paradoxical the whole situation of televised music has become. Who would have believed, a decade ago, that Sky would be showing straightforward music-making, while the BBC is constantly searching for new gimmicks?
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« Reply #11 on: 21:45:55, 30-10-2008 »

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Here, here, Descombes. I could not agree more. The BBC is fast becoming a desperate, dispicable, degraded, demeaning, debacle of a dogs doings. The more cynical among us might think it is being 'gradually' prepared for for privatisation but perhaps that's for another thread?
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« Reply #12 on: 22:07:30, 30-10-2008 »

I watched the SkyArts recording of the Dudamel concert again tonight. Apart from the wonderful music-making, I was struck by the contrast with the current BBC approach to broadcasting serious music. There was no spoken commentary or introduction throughout the broadcast; we were just given visual titles. The audience was treated as adults. We either knew about the orchestra or we were assumed to have the initiative to find out.

How would this have differed if it had been recorded by the BBC?  Patronising introductions, film of rehearsals, the players leaving home for auditions, reactions of parents, interviews with audience members, a commentary telling us what the conductor was feeling - all these horrors and more, I suspect. Even the camera work was unobtrusive and efficient.

How paradoxical the whole situation of televised music has become. Who would have believed, a decade ago, that Sky would be showing straightforward music-making, while the BBC is constantly searching for new gimmicks?

But there's another, very simple, and erm very correct explanation for the difference: SkyArts just shows stuff, and not much of it. Some concerts, some operas, the odd masterpieces of world whatever. All bought in. None of it original. Or adding anything to anything.

And nobody at Sky knows anything about the stuff they show, so nobody at Sky could provide introductions, editorial content etc.

So, apart from the fact that they aren't Sky's programmes anyway, there isn't anybody at Sky to get in the way (or to do something more interesting than get in the way).

And the camera work isn't Sky's, of course, since they don't make the programmes.

Effectively, they just show DVDs. (With the odd, insignificant, exception).

(I have Sky for Sky Sports, which is rather better informed Smiley. I live with the shame of it. Sad )

There's plenty (I'm sure) to beat the BBC over and with. But SkyArts is no argument for anything.
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