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Eruanto
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« Reply #15 on: 14:59:53, 16-06-2008 »

I have a session booked in (one of) the RCM recording studio this evening. I've never done anything like this before -although I do have some idea of how the process works -, indeed before a couple of weeks ago I had never ever visited the facility. Embarrassed
Even though I know that it'll just be me in the room, the thought of playing to a red light is making me nervous somehow, I suspect I'll be making a fool of myself and wasting time and money.
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« Reply #16 on: 15:48:04, 16-06-2008 »

From all I've heard concerning your playing so far, you have next to nothing to worry about Eru. Go break a leg, or a string, or something. How about a record?
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« Reply #17 on: 15:52:22, 16-06-2008 »

I have a session booked in (one of) the RCM recording studio this evening. I've never done anything like this before -although I do have some idea of how the process works -, indeed before a couple of weeks ago I had never ever visited the facility. Embarrassed
Even though I know that it'll just be me in the room, the thought of playing to a red light is making me nervous somehow, I suspect I'll be making a fool of myself and wasting time and money.

But everyone has to start somewhere, don't they?  And if you had no nerves, I bet you would be lousy.  (I have absolutely no first hand experience of musical performance, I am just drawing parallels with my own experience elsewhere.)

At any rate, best of luck.
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« Reply #18 on: 15:59:44, 16-06-2008 »

I have a session booked in (one of) the RCM recording studio this evening. I've never done anything like this before -although I do have some idea of how the process works -, indeed before a couple of weeks ago I had never ever visited the facility. Embarrassed
Even though I know that it'll just be me in the room, the thought of playing to a red light is making me nervous somehow, I suspect I'll be making a fool of myself and wasting time and money.

eru,

I would echo Kitty and say that I find it hard to believe you will have any problems - if you do Brahms and do it like you did at Steinway Hall I will buy a recording!  (And if you don't, well, just try to get into that zone).

Failing that, do you have a teddy bear to perform to - they have eyes and ears you know!  (and it can be easy to fool yourself that you are actually performing to one.  Quite a lot better than a red light).

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« Reply #19 on: 16:11:46, 16-06-2008 »

I have a session booked in (one of) the RCM recording studio this evening. I've never done anything like this before -although I do have some idea of how the process works -, indeed before a couple of weeks ago I had never ever visited the facility. Embarrassed
Even though I know that it'll just be me in the room, the thought of playing to a red light is making me nervous somehow, I suspect I'll be making a fool of myself and wasting time and money.

Eru this is great!

Even if you decide ultimately that you don't want to use the recording, it'll be fantastic for you to learn from listening to yourself. We're building self-assessment by recording into the performance course here next year because every single performance class is videoed. (You may well already do this at the RCM in which case ignore that last para).

Would it help to think about this as an investment in yourself? Who do you think is judging you? Even if you just look at it as a document of your playing at this current moment it's a great investment. And don't expect everything to go perfectly first time. Allow yourself to cock up from time to time and just do what you can do. In my experience, once you get used to having a microphone recording you, it suddenly stops being a big deal. So try not to think about the red light or the money or the time. Because the more you think about them, the less you will make of the money or time! It might help you to have a schedule of what you want to cover. Allow time for re-takes, for shuffling around, for loo breaks and make sure that you've warmed up before you begin.

Enjoy it.
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« Reply #20 on: 16:13:33, 16-06-2008 »

eru, here's another Kitty echo (and a Don Basilio one). Those here that have seen you performing have been unanimous that you are a very good thing indeed and that those us who haven't heard you perform are the poorer for it.

Go for it, eru. You'll have very positive r3ok vibes winging their way to you. Hope you see these posts before you start. 
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« Reply #21 on: 16:56:30, 16-06-2008 »

Good luck, eru.      I'm not a musical performer but am fully aware of the fear factor before you are given a manual cue, or await a red light.    Engage with the unlit light, or the camera and technicians in a TV studio.   Breathe gently but deeply and look forward to releasing your pent-up energy on cue.  It will always be a testing moment but it will get easier, believe me.  It's the craft of performance itself which gets more difficult.   Hamlet defied augury; take the same stance with your cue light - it is no different to the rise of the curtain in a theatre.

I did my first TV stint in Z Cars, circa 1964.    The programme went-out "Live" at the time:  I had an anxious 20 minute wait before a scene with Brian Blessed and Colin Welland; they saw my anxiety and as the camera approached, Colin nudged me and said, "If you "dry", twenty million people are watching."   The mind focussed instanta!

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« Reply #22 on: 01:40:48, 17-06-2008 »

Just seen all these now, I'm afraid. I'm touched Kiss

But everyone has to start somewhere, don't they?

A very good point. The experience will take some getting used to though.

Failing that, do you have a teddy bear to perform to - they have eyes and ears you know! 

I do, but I fear it's a bit too big to take anywhere! A good idea for run-throughs at home, though. Smiley
Apparently i'm only allowed to make copies for "personal use" Undecided, whatever that is Huh

Even if you decide ultimately that you don't want to use the recording, it'll be fantastic for you to learn from listening to yourself. We're building self-assessment by recording into the performance course here next year because every single performance class is videoed. (You may well already do this at the RCM in which case ignore that last para).

Nothing like that takes place, regrettably, which explains why I've managed to avoid the studio until now. Listening back to myself was (and is) the strangest part of all.

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Oh I did plenty of that, believe me! Quite a few of them made it into the finished disc Roll Eyes Not even the Brahms is totally error-free.



When I'd just finished, I thought it was all much worse than it actually is Undecided The less said about one piece the better, but in general it doesn't seem too bad. Some notes come out too loud, some too soft, but a few are commecicommeca. There wasn't enough time to play everything I wanted to but that can't be helped.
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« Reply #23 on: 08:51:54, 17-06-2008 »


Nothing like that takes place, regrettably, which explains why I've managed to avoid the studio until now. Listening back to myself was (and is) the strangest part of all.

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Allow yourself to cock up from time to time
Oh I did plenty of that, believe me! Quite a few of them made it into the finished disc Roll Eyes Not even the Brahms is totally error-free.



When I'd just finished, I thought it was all much worse than it actually is Undecided The less said about one piece the better, but in general it doesn't seem too bad. Some notes come out too loud, some too soft, but a few are commecicommeca. There wasn't enough time to play everything I wanted to but that can't be helped.

That sounds completely normal to me! This is all a learning curve and you shouldn't expect it to be easy. Remember that there aren't all that many commercial recordings that are totally error-free, and that part of the excitement of a true performance isn't dependent upon 100% correct notes.

Do you have the opportunity to get back in there and record again? I'd really recommend it in about a week's time. Record the same repertoire (spend less time on it though so that you can record the things that you didn't get time to record this time).
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« Reply #24 on: 08:53:43, 17-06-2008 »

Eru, 'personal use' usually just means 'non-commercial use'. So there'd be nothing wrong in making copies available to your


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« Reply #25 on: 10:53:32, 17-06-2008 »

Do you have the opportunity to get back in there and record again? I'd really recommend it in about a week's time.

The opportunity perhaps, if I was lucky, but not the cash. Sad

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I'll see what I can offer without too much embarrassment.
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« Reply #26 on: 11:09:56, 17-06-2008 »

Do you have the opportunity to get back in there and record again? I'd really recommend it in about a week's time.

The opportunity perhaps, if I was lucky, but not the cash. Sad

Well that's rubbish. I would have thought that an institution like yours would be falling over themselves to give you time in the institution's own recording studios.
Do you have any friends who are doing modules in recording or suchlike? It can be a really useful experience just to have a recording session as imperfect as you like just with friends setting stuff up.
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« Reply #27 on: 12:39:59, 17-06-2008 »

Well that's rubbish. I would have thought that an institution like yours would be falling over themselves to give you time in the institution's own recording studios.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that the studios are really popular, and are most likely booked up. I only got last night's slot as it was through a cancellation.

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« Reply #28 on: 17:31:28, 17-06-2008 »

Do you have any friends who are doing modules in recording or suchlike?

'Fraid not Undecided

Can I recommend you might want to make a new friend? It will be terribly useful especially if they will give you a brief intro into how these things work. A lot of modern software is really very easy to use. If I can use it, anyone can.

I have a worried.
I seem to have developed a thin patch towards the front of my hair. I'm sure it's just where my hair was thinned a little too efficiently last week but I have paranoid thoughts...
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« Reply #29 on: 17:37:56, 17-06-2008 »


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