Milly Jones
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« on: 13:20:33, 07-05-2007 » |
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I'm just hoping and praying that they find the little girl that was snatched in the Algarve, alive and as well as could be expected after such an ordeal...even if she's alive, heaven only knows what she's going through. I'm an Agnostic, but Agnostics pray....just in case!
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #1 on: 13:59:43, 07-05-2007 » |
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #2 on: 16:52:27, 07-05-2007 » |
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Horrible story, and I only hope it ends all right - but please, what on earth were the parents thinking about, leaving a 3 year old and twins aged 2 for even half an hour? Children that age shouldn't be left at all.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #3 on: 16:57:27, 07-05-2007 » |
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Horrible story, and I only hope it ends all right - but please, what on earth were the parents thinking about, leaving a 3 year old and twins aged 2 for even half an hour? Children that age shouldn't be left at all.
That's what everyone is saying unfortunately. They're claiming that they were only 40 yards away from the apartment, that they could see the door which was locked and that they were going back to check every half an hour. I'd never do it myself - let's face it they can be gone in a few seconds if you turn your back in a shopping centre when they're with you - remember Jamie Bulger? I'm possibly over-protective but I'm afraid these days you can't be too careful. However my heart goes out to the parents and the abject misery they're experiencing now. We all make mistakes and hindsight is a wonderful thing. They'll be beating themselves up for ever, even if they get her back unscathed.
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« Reply #4 on: 18:45:58, 07-05-2007 » |
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Horrible story, and I only hope it ends all right - but please, what on earth were the parents thinking about, leaving a 3 year old and twins aged 2 for even half an hour? Children that age shouldn't be left at all.
i think they're kicking themselves over that, mary. what if....
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John W
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« Reply #5 on: 18:54:15, 07-05-2007 » |
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The police efforts are not very public. Have they rounded up all the people who were in the same bar, and who likely knew they were checking the kids every half hour??
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #6 on: 14:07:55, 08-05-2007 » |
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I've just discovered to my astonishment that the parents are both doctors - he's a heart specialist and she's a GP.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #7 on: 14:34:07, 08-05-2007 » |
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There's a big article in today's Mail about people being hypocritical in criticising these people for leaving her alone. Apparently we've all done it at some time or left children in cars alone etc. Except of course that most of us haven't. I wonder if the media would have been as sympathetic had the parents been non-professionals? I expect there would have been questions in The House about how we don't educate our low-paid workers on how to properly bring up their children. Wasn't Bliar mooting some sort of parental education scheme at one time?
I know a very wealthy lady who left her 3-year old asleep in her bedroom and went off to school to pick up the others. When she returned, the house had been broken into and a sizeable sum of money taken. The child was unhurt and untouched as it happened, fortunately, but I can remember being absolutely horrified at what might have been the outcome. When I mentioned this to her she pooh-poohed it straight away and said "it was only for 30 minutes!"
These occasions are of course mercifully very rare and one doesn't like to be over-protective but really even if it's a one in a million chance, to my mind it isn't worth taking the risk of it being your child.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #8 on: 14:51:17, 08-05-2007 » |
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I don't think I've ever been an over-protective parent, and in fact the dangers, other than traffic, to children are rather fewer than they used to be (not that you'd think that if you read some of the press), but it's a matter of age. You can't guarantee that the children won't wake up and be frightened, or get into mischief, even if it's highly unlikely they will be abducted. Two- and three-year-olds are a particularly vulnerable group, because they are active and curious but haven't much sense - how could they have? Someone should always be in earshot. As far as I'm concerned there are no excuses at all.
I still feel for them, though - don't think I don't. The guilt will be the worst thing, almost.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #9 on: 17:18:06, 08-05-2007 » |
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Mary, you're absolutely right about the age group. In fact my six-year old can wake up with a nightmare and need reassurance. It would be awful if I'd "just nipped out for a pizza" if he woke up distressed.
Ah well, all we can do is hope and pray and obviously I sympathise very deeply with the poor parents. On my news page, they're talking about looking into all the paedophile rings in Portugal - it really doesn't bear thinking about.
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« Reply #10 on: 17:34:04, 08-05-2007 » |
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This is every parent's worst nightmare, isn't it? I agree completely with all of you who have expressed astonishment that it was allowed to happen. My partner and I have travelled quite widely with our daughter (who is now nearly 5) and I couldn't imagine us doing such a thing. It may be easy to be wise after the event but with something like this it's actually fairly easy to be wise before it too.
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John W
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« Reply #11 on: 19:37:36, 08-05-2007 » |
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I'm concerned about the Potuguese police, they do not discuss their methods with the public so we don't know if they have identified all the people who were in the bar with the family watching when they went to check the kids.
Maybe the couple were saying loudly to everyone that they WERE checking the kids, so when they were both in the bar..... and the kidnappers knew which room they had.....
The UK police should be asking more about the other residents or customers in the bar, after all the kidnapper is possibly a UK citizen.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #12 on: 19:49:43, 08-05-2007 » |
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To be fair, John, we don't know that they haven't done that. Dealing with unfamiliar police methods must make it all harder for everyone.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #13 on: 07:45:58, 09-05-2007 » |
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I'm just watching BBC Breakfast on TV, and they (journalists etc) are STILL saying it was a normal thing to do, and "we've all done it". NO, we haven't.
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #14 on: 11:20:07, 09-05-2007 » |
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One of the things that professionals in the field of medicine learn is risk assessment. Unfortunately, (AFAIK) there is no complementary teaching of ways to assess the potential impact of a risk misjudged. And while it is very tempting to question whether one parent was more insistent on an excursion without the children, this is not the time.
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