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Author Topic: Anyone ever tried reclaiming bank charges?  (Read 526 times)
Ian Pace
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« on: 22:41:57, 07-05-2007 »

An accountant friend of mine told me of various clients of hers that she's been able to reclaim sometimes thousands of pounds in bank charges for. Apparently the levels of charges that most banks charge when you go over your limit are much more than they are allowed to - details are here. Has anyone here tried this and been successful or otherwise?
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #1 on: 00:43:40, 08-05-2007 »

Just to show how nice bankers can be, I accidentally went 90p overdrawn last month. I'd forgotten about a direct debit but I was mortified because I don't think I've ever been in the red before. Anyway, the bank (Natwest) said it didn't matter and there'd be no charge.
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« Reply #2 on: 02:18:02, 08-05-2007 »

Some years ago I wrote to my bank and instructed them to set a very low "limit" on my credit card. This was so that (as I thought) I would never have the problem of people charging large amounts to the card in error, and then my having to go through the process of having the charge reversed. I assumed that the bank would obey my instructions and refuse to accept a charge which took the card over the (so-called) "credit limit".

Twelve years later it did happen that some one (my old internet provider) charged much too much one month. But far from rejecting the charge because it was over the "limit," the bank enthusiastically accepted it and began to send me enormous bills for "over-limit fees".

I wrote to the manager explaining that he had acted contrary to my explicit instructions, and explained to him the meaning of the word "limit". I also asked what work or action he had undertaken in return for his "over-limit fees". The bank replied with a letter of grovelling apology and refunded all their "fees" with interest. They never did answer my question about the work.
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« Reply #3 on: 09:57:56, 08-05-2007 »

The bank replied with a letter of grovelling apology and refunded all their "fees" with interest.

 Shocked What planet was this on? I must consider moving there. Heartiest congratulations.
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« Reply #4 on: 10:16:56, 08-05-2007 »

One of my sons has put in a claim for £2000.  He hasn't heard anything yet but seems to be quite confident.  We are a family of optimists though.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: 10:41:07, 08-05-2007 »

I've never done it myself, being one of those stupid people who actually tries very hard not to go over my limit ( Huh )*, but my flatmate, who never worries about such things and just spends money whether it's there or not, recently managed to re-claim about £1500 which was the sum total of his bank charges over the last 5 years or so. They don't argue, basically - you just work out how much they've charged you, write to them asking for that amount back (get a pro-forma letter from the CAB), and, so it seems, they'll refund it all.

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*I'm joking. But it is one of those things that makes me wonder why I ever bother worrying about not going overdrawn etc.
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« Reply #6 on: 10:47:44, 08-05-2007 »

That's right.  £2000 is the total of my son's bank charges over about 5 years.  He constantly lives above his limit I'm afraid.  Anyway he's applied for it so we'll see what happens.  If he's successful I'll report back so everyone can have a go.
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« Reply #7 on: 11:47:13, 08-05-2007 »

Some banks have indeed gone on something of a charging spree over the past few years and hoped that they'd get away with it in most cases because few people tend to argue with their banks, especially when they are overdrawn. This matter has certainly been thrown under the spotlight of late and, whilst I have no problems with banks charging what they are entitled to charge (provided that they do so under prior written agreement that has been duly explained to the customer), it is not usually this that the recent developments have sought to address.

The problem is that, when banks do agree to return past charges in the ways decribed, they usually only stick them back on again elsewhere. One example of this has been where banks' credit card service provider departments have been castigated for charging more than £12 as a late payment penalty (some were charging more than twice this amount) and, now that this is no longer permitted, they all charge that minimum but have also reacted by increasing other costs to customers in a bid to make.

Furthermore, the days of free personal banking are pretty much at an end now, even for customers who do not go overdrawn. My own bank has always charged me a quarterly fee and an additional fee for every transaction of any kind, in and out of my account, unless my average balance is maintained in credit by more than £5,000 (a likely circumstance!); whilst this may seem expensive on the face of it, the bank does allow me to run just the one account for both business and personal use (so only one set of charges) and I have to say that the quality and level of service I receive from the bank has been consistently excellent and it includes fully itemised monthly statements (by which I mean that ,if Sir Joseph Bloggs sends me a cheque for £100, the statement will show "Sir Joseph Bloggs - £100CR" - a very useful defensive facility if ever the taxman wants to pick a fight...). That said, I endeavour keep my individual item charges to a minimum by ensuring that all outgoings are paid for by charge card, which incurs no charges at all. I don't therefore feel that I would have any right to try to get my charges back, but I fully support those who do when they have actually been overcharged.

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« Reply #8 on: 13:55:48, 08-05-2007 »

Well, Ab*y have a standard charge of £30 each time, which is way more than they should be able to. The one question is whether this affects one's future overdraft, etc. possibilities with that bank - did anything happen with your flatmate in that respect, t-i-n?
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« Reply #9 on: 16:07:34, 13-05-2007 »

I always thought of these types of charges as a deterrent for customers to spend the banks money when the individual doesnt have it.  With some ludicrus ammounts of money being banded about (one guy trying to reclaim 12,000 over a few years) I seriously wonder if some of these people are sensible enough to even have their own bank accounts.
 
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« Reply #10 on: 16:24:28, 13-05-2007 »

I seriously wonder if some of these people are sensible enough to even have their own bank accounts.
I can think of a few CEOs of large corporations that this would also apply to! But they don't generally have to pay bank charges and taxes and that kind of thing.
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« Reply #11 on: 17:29:15, 13-05-2007 »

I always thought of these types of charges as a deterrent for customers to spend the banks money when the individual doesnt have it.  With some ludicrus ammounts of money being banded about (one guy trying to reclaim 12,000 over a few years) I seriously wonder if some of these people are sensible enough to even have their own bank accounts.
 


My son, trying to claim back the £2000, certainly wasn't sensible enough in his youth!  All the same many people seem to be being paid out, so he may as well try to reclaim it I suppose.

That said, banks' charges have been ridiculous in the past.  I recollect a friend of mine and her husband who had their own business which went to the wall unfortunately, were desperately trying to meet their debts and their bank - Barclays (don't touch 'em) - would charge them £25.00 to bounce a cheque written for £8.00. 
How on earth is any one supposed to try and get out of that sort of dreadful situation with charges like that inflicted upon them when they most need some leeway.

Personally I bank with a building society. I've always preferred it to a high street bank.  I don't know how they compare with banks for charges as fortunately I've not had to pay any yet.  Long may it last!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: 21:28:29, 13-05-2007 »

I don't know how charges compare but I think building societies, because of changes over the past 10 years or so, have become more profit conscious and keen to award big dividends to their shareholders than banks, who have not been through such upheavals recently.
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« Reply #13 on: 10:37:20, 14-05-2007 »

Well, Ab*y have a standard charge of £30 each time, which is way more than they should be able to. The one question is whether this affects one's future overdraft, etc. possibilities with that bank - did anything happen with your flatmate in that respect, t-i-n?
Sorry, Ian, just spotted this now the thread's come back up. I'm not sure, is the answer - I think he was so far in debt even discounting the bank charges that he was on special repayment plans etc. anyway.

£30 is N***est's standard referral charge too, or rather the only time recently I've gone overdrawn I was charged £30 for having done so, PLUS £28 for each day that I was overdrawn. I actually realised what I'd done the day it happened (had overlooked a direct debit), so went into the branch and was told they'd have to charge me the £28 daily penalty but would waive the £30 referral charge. Then it appeared on my statement, and I had to go back into the branch to remind them of what they'd promised. They did refund it, but it was quite time-consuming as it wasn't my regular branch, and my regular branch told me I'd have to go back to the branch who'd made the promise in order to get the refund, despite the fact that one was in Manchester and one was in London! Huh Fortunately I was back in that neighbourhood pretty soon, but if I hadn't been I'd have had to argue harder, I think.

I do have some sympathy for the idea that people should avoid going over their debt limit, rather than reclaiming bank charges when they do so - plus as Alistair said I'm sure the bank only redistribute the charges elsewhere - but on the other hand the regulators do now seem to be on the customer's side, for the moment at least, and it would seem foolish not to take advantage. There are certainly lots of schemes to help people who are in debt reduce their debt at the moment, although apparently credit agencies are beginning to be more harsh again with people who don't stick to interest-frozen repayment plans and the like.
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