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Author Topic: Mastery of ones mind and good performance  (Read 218 times)
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« on: 20:35:25, 18-05-2007 »

I think there are things in our mind that stand on the way of a good performance and good practice.

I have been thinking about it for many years. There are good books on the subject.

I want to start a thread discussing brain interferances and how to deal with them.
People don't have to be performers to have this kind of interferences.
I understand interferences like some negative thoughts that distract one's full concentration on the matter at hand.
Often it can be a small voice inside with doubts or some things people said, negative reaction on one's performance or one's compositions can make a person to doubt himself.

In the DVD Effortless Mastery Kenny Werner discusses what ego can do to us.
Music is supposed to be a joyful and liberating ocasion, not stiffling one with worries or anxieties.

I find this DVD (there is a book with the same name too) very illuminating. But at the same time his approach is a little simplistic.

I would like to know if people read some other books and interesting thoughts on the subject.
After all 99% of how we play and what we feel is in our mind.

I can not say that I like everything about the video. He is critical of academic approach.

In a DVD Werner discusses fear of not succeeding. That can stay on the way of good performance.

How to light up an audience? How not to care about your performance, fear of not being given a chance to play with best people.

I would appreciate if people can share what they read on the subject of mind and how to deal with brain interferences in our dayly practice or performances.
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« Reply #1 on: 08:21:29, 19-05-2007 »

I think this is absolutely true, t-p.   In the theatre they're known as "tells" - something that tells the audience that the performer is uncomfortable with what he is doing, or thinking about something else.   An intentional "tell" can be very useful, but mostly they're unintentional, and detract from the performance.

One of Stanislavsky's central points (and it's worth pointing-out that Stanislavsky worked extensively with musicians as well as actors, and there is still an opera-house in Moscow named after him) is that you must never, ever, succumb to the temptation to think about "what you look like on the stage as viewed from the audience's seats",  because this will paralyse you with fear, and/or lead you to perform in a ridiculous way.  (There are several chapters in Stanislavsky's writings about the psychological ways to avoid falling into this trap).

Of course, "fear of not succeeding" remains in our minds as an undercurrent, but this is what Stanislavsky would call a "sverch-zadacha" ("an overriding imperative") - in other words it's an end result, and thus only achievable by the identification and application of a sequence of targets, or goals (or whatever term you like for an achievable and identifiable task) which are within our abilities if we have studied them and how to achieve them throughout our training.   A violinist doesn't go out onto the concert stage with the idea in their mind "I must succeed"...   that's already understood long ago, and in fact they have already succeeded by being offered the concert.   Instead there is a series of tasks and activities planned  ("I must watch the conductor carefully at bar 102", "I need to copy the oboist's phrasing in the second movement", "the ending must be senza vibrato as marked" etc) which careful and planned training tells him/her will result in the overall aim of a successful performance.  From the moment of taking up his/her position for the performance, even before the conductor has appeared, the audience "no longer exist" - the only thing that is important is the music immediately ahead.  Even the second movement doesn't exist - the job now is to play the first movement.
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« Reply #2 on: 09:26:38, 19-05-2007 »

Reiener,
This is very good points. I know Stanislavsky and heard about his method, but I never read his writings on the subject. What he says about theater could be applied to music (performing and even composition to a certain extend).
About "super task" that can overwhelm us
Werner on this DVD says about competitions: Do you think if Monk (spelling?) today would enter his competition would he win it? I was thinking to myself: If Chopin or Liszt would enter competition would they win it?

About fear of success Werner sujects to put less importance on what you do and what you achieve. We are playing music and it is not as important as feeding hungry and finding cure for illneses.

Also he talks about distracting yourself from your performance. So many times people say that when they want to play especially well they can not play half as good as when they don't try so hard.
He suggest to make it a hobby even if you are a professional. He also suggests to dissasociate yourself from your value as a human. This is a spiritual concept.
My value doesn't depend on whether or not I succeed.

I find your post very interesting. I could never understand why I play well some times and other times it just doesn't happen. Some times it is obvious. For example, one could be just tired on the day. But often it is a mistery to me.
What Stanislavsky says and now what I hear on Werner's DVD helps a little in my understanding.
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« Reply #3 on: 10:46:55, 23-05-2007 »

I've been meaning to contribute to this thread for a while - sorry it's taken so long, t-p!

There are a few things I am very conscious of to give me a better chance of playing well.  Getting enough sleep the night before is important, but hard if you are nervous about the concert.  Overcoming nerves is a big subject which I'll have a think about for later....

But as well as trying to get enough sleep, I yet to avoid food on concert day until after performance.  Snacks, like biscuits and mars bars, are fine, but a meal just makes me feel lethargic and makes my fingers stodgy.  The only time 3 found this useful was before a Brahms symphony, where it made me feel like a day Austrian in the VPO (I imagine....).  But otherwise, I just don't feel nimble enough to play.  I think you need to be hungry before playing.

Oddly, I never feel hungry when I'm in performance - perhaps there are too many other things to think about.  But I'm starving afterwards.

Knowing a piece too well from muscle memory can hinder performance.  On a couple of occasions, I've found myself thinking about cooking or whether I left the has on whilst my arms get on with playing a concerto.  That's fine, until your brain tries to take charge again...  Best is to learn a piece, then forget it, then learn it again.  Your brain remembers the relearning, and your muscles remember the first time round.  But that is very time consuming, as you have to allow years to forget it!

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« Reply #4 on: 16:38:55, 23-05-2007 »

Thank you Tommo. Your post if very helpful.
I read in one of the books (don't remember where) not to be afraid about thinking about different things during performance.
This stand contrary to my training because many teachers wrote and talked about not to be distracted.
However I find that some times too much concentration is not good and people get tense with trying.
So it seems to me that I have to change my approach (at least in some cases).
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