SusanDoris
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Years ago (1970s I think) I bought for my mother an LP which played bird songs slowed down to various speeds with commentaries. Of course it is long gone, but I would love to have something similar just for the regular garden song birds. I've written to the RSPB but they say they have nothing. On the JREF MB one poster (a music expert whose mother used to do a lot with RSPB) suggested downloading some software (Audacity) which enables things to be played at slower speeds. I checked with Dolphin and it would be compatible with Supernova, but my computer teacher had a look at the website and you have to do this, then that, click here and there and I just can't manage that, even using the magnification which Supernova provides.
So I was wondering if anyone knows of any recordings of slowed-down bird songs? On Sunday I heard a blackcap singing - lovely. It sounded a bit like a wren to start with, but then I realised it was a warbler.
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« Reply #1 on: 20:27:51, 22-05-2007 » |
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Susan Doris
I hope that someone will know of a specific recording. I have heard recordings played on Late Junction from time to time but don't have any details. I did a google search on "slowed down bird song" which you might care to repeat, there were some interesting sites and blogs, some of which had recorded samples you could listen to but nothing to purchase.
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MT Wessel
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« Reply #3 on: 20:54:54, 22-05-2007 » |
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#2. Cheer's Bryn. 'A Northumberland harbour' sounds like badly edited swimming pool pornography......
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« Reply #5 on: 19:09:14, 23-05-2007 » |
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Many thanks for the above links and ideas, which I will follow up in a minute.
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« Reply #6 on: 21:29:40, 24-05-2007 » |
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This thread has made me pay careful attention to birdsong as I've been walking to work (and working in the garden). Aren't birds brilliant? I always thought it might be interesting to compare Messiaen's transcriptions with birdsong (if you could not only slow it down but expand the intervals as he says he does). Anyone done it?
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« Reply #7 on: 21:35:47, 24-05-2007 » |
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Observing fairly large flocks of parakeets (yes, parakeets!) throughout today in my garden (in Catford, SE London), I was struck by how much the noises they made reminded me of Sweep.
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« Reply #8 on: 21:42:11, 24-05-2007 » |
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The arrival of Baziron has caused me to think of Janequin's Chant des Oiseaux. 'Gerhart 'art thou come forth out of Phlegethon? 'with Buxtehude and Klages in your satchel, with the 'Ständebuch of Sachs in yr/luggage '-not of one bird but of many' Ezra Pound, Canto LXXV
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« Reply #9 on: 11:38:39, 25-05-2007 » |
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This thread has made me pay careful attention to birdsong as I've been walking to work (and working in the garden). Aren't birds brilliant? I always thought it might be interesting to compare Messiaen's transcriptions with birdsong (if you could not only slow it down but expand the intervals as he says he does). Anyone done it?
Yes they have, hh - and they've even put examples online: Here are some of the Oiseaux exotiques. And here are some of the main characters from Réveil des oiseaux. Isn't the internet great? This thread also reminds me of an installation I saw up at the Baltic in Gateshead earlier this year, in which the artist Marcus Coates collected songs from a dawn chorus, then slowed them down so that they could be (more or less accurately) imitated by humans, then sped up the video of the human 'birdsong' so that it came back up to original pitch and speed. I'm not sure the artwork itself was 100% effective, but it was a convincing trick.
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« Reply #10 on: 09:49:28, 26-05-2007 » |
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In the 1970s I taped some blackbird songs at seven and a half IPS on my Dad's old Philips reel-to-reel and played them back at one-end-seven-eighths. The result was fascinating. I consider blackbirds to be far more interesting natural musicians than humans! I regard bird song as the most beautiful sound outside composed music.
It's not widely-known that Arnold Schoenberg once transcribed nightingale songs into written notation . A manuscript of 5 August 1912 is annotated ' Much higher than piccolo, C frequently occurs . Tne principal tones come from the chord Bflat,D,F,Aflat'.
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« Reply #11 on: 10:22:18, 26-05-2007 » |
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Yes, blackbirds are best! I remember the wren's song on that old LP too; and I am sure there were some R4 programmes analysing bird song some time ago. Of course, if I was like one friend who keeps everything, I would have been sensible and put it in the attic, but I am quite the opposite, and when I die, my sons will only need about half-an-hour - well, not very long anyway - to go through the cupboards! In fact I'll ask one of them to have a look on that eBay site to see if there is anything there.
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« Reply #12 on: 09:57:45, 27-05-2007 » |
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I sometimes wish I had made an effort to keep everything, but frequent home-moves and a spouse who likes chucking out anything not used in the last six months have put pai to that.
Among the things I regret disposing of are a complete 'Apostles 'with Sargent conducting (and Owen Branngan a marvellous Judas!) and Thurston Dart's set of 'Early English Keyboard Music' on Oiseau-Lyre LPs.
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« Reply #13 on: 13:09:25, 27-05-2007 » |
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very little bird song today. must be the rain... i'm sure i can remember some documentary which featured a kookaburra (or something) that lived next to a building site. it had managed to pick up (and master) the sounds of a chainsaw.
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« Reply #14 on: 14:09:11, 27-05-2007 » |
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My next door neighbour used to whistle in the garden a lot and a blackbird picked it up. He died quite suddenly while I was up at university, and I had a strange moment when I came down in the holiday, hearing him whistling in the garden. Once I'd worked out it was the blackbird, I thought about how nice that is. Potentially, that blackbird will pass it on to its offspring and so on, and it will evolve, but it's a contribution to what you might call 'the oral history of the blackbird'.
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