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Bryn
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« on: 00:49:28, 01-09-2007 »

From the Europadisc site:

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Prokofiev - The Steel Step, The Prodigal Con
Artist(s): The Ussr Ministry Of Culture Symphony Orchestra
Conductor(s): Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
Normally: £10.95 NOW: £8.95 (£7.62 ex VAT) special offer ending 29/10/2007
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« Reply #1 on: 00:52:09, 01-09-2007 »

A con for under a tenner.

How prodigal of them!
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« Reply #2 on: 09:53:44, 01-09-2007 »

Je connais plusieurs cons prodigues, moi... Wink
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« Reply #3 on: 10:26:21, 01-09-2007 »

Mais naturellement. Presque tous les Ozzies originaux étaient les cons, n'est-ce pas?
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« Reply #4 on: 15:11:09, 01-09-2007 »

Ron, Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: 17:41:39, 01-09-2007 »

Les aussies originaux, Ron?!? Quelle honte. ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians

Mais bon, oui, après 1788 il y avait que des 'cons' et flics et les flics étaient des cons alors voilà quoi...
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« Reply #6 on: 17:55:07, 01-09-2007 »

Et après 1996 ils deviennent les neo-cons?   Wink
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« Reply #7 on: 18:47:04, 01-09-2007 »

 Cry
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« Reply #8 on: 18:53:09, 01-09-2007 »

Les aussies originaux, Ron?!? Quelle honte. ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians

Mais bon, oui, après 1788 il y avait que des 'cons' et flics et les flics étaient des cons alors voilà quoi...

Mais avant 1788 (et bien après aussi, je crois) les inhabitants aborigènes n'étaient pas du tout les 'aussies' mais quelque chose d'autre, n'est-ce pas?
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« Reply #9 on: 20:32:45, 01-09-2007 »

(Abandoning French because it seems out of place... anyone wanting to set up an r3ok French practice thread will however find me to be a willing participant.)

Technically you have a point there, Ron: the Commonwealth of Australia didn't come into existence until January 1, 1901. On the other hand the continent was known as Australia for a while before that, including before white settlement as you can read here.

The status of Australian citizenship didn't come into existence until Australia Day 1949 (!). Before that Australians had the status of British subjects. Read more here if you're curious.
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« Reply #10 on: 20:43:06, 01-09-2007 »

Perhaps I should draw attention to another listing on the Europadisc site? Wink

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« Reply #11 on: 23:27:41, 01-09-2007 »

If I may I would like to take the opportunity afforded by the 'Oops' thread to wish all Australian fathers a very happy Father's Day (Australia) for tomorrow.
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« Reply #12 on: 03:46:21, 02-09-2007 »

This is one of the most fascinating nonfiction books I've read:

http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Shore-epic-Australias-founding/dp/0394753666/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6197051-4091257?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188700984&sr=8-2

But I'm sure most of you are familiar with it already.

Edit:  One of the reviewers on that Amazon page compares Australia to Andersonville, a prison in Georgia that held captured Union troops during our Civil War. . . weird.
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« Reply #13 on: 08:12:21, 02-09-2007 »

I agree, Colin. A tremendous book. Like everything Robert Hughes writes, powerful and subtly nuanced at the same time and packed with insights and perspectives that change the way you see things. You also feel that you are in safe hands (at least I do) in that the shocking story he has to tell is always backed up by evidence and balanced by alternative evidence where it exists.

From a personal point of view I suppose my slight worry is that it is the only book on the founding of Australia that I have read (my fault, not his, obviously!) and, because it is so good, it simply 'is' now my picture of that story. The power and intelligence of his writing makes me trust him but I know that not all Australian historians agree and that there is controversy, for example, over his reading of the terrible events in Tasmania. I suppose all I am saying is that I really ought to plough through some other, less well written, books on the subject as well sometime. 

I don't know if there are any Australians here who might like to offer a view...  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: 10:00:35, 02-09-2007 »

As an adjunct to "what's that burning?", here is the latest Australian recipe  Sad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6974687.stm
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