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« Reply #60 on: 09:17:31, 18-09-2007 »
Quote from: autoharp on 09:02:40, 18-09-2007
Quote from: ahinton on 20:16:10, 17-09-2007
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if you weren't quite certain that I was an utter nutcase before, you surely know now!

Thanks for that confirmation, Alistair.
My (albeit dubious) pleasure - although I rather doubt (given the particular circumstances) that you or indeed anyone else really needed such confirmation...

Best,

Alistair

Well . . . you said it . . .
Indeed so - and it is, after all, the kind of thing that is best said oneself before anyone else thinks to say it...

Mind you, as a sort of excuse for the circumstances that gave rise to this little exchange, I have to say that, given a violist and a double bass player of sufficient brilliance and outright cheek, that arrangement can be made to work...

Best,

Alistair
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« Reply #61 on: 18:24:04, 19-09-2007 »
Mahler was inspired by Down by the Old Bull and Bush when writing Rheinlegendchen.

Ah, the good old days...
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« Reply #62 on: 18:31:13, 19-09-2007 »
Jesus Christ Superstar's been mentioned before, but does anyone else hear this hidden in the opening bar or two of Ferneyhough's Cassandra's Dream Song?

No? Just me then  Embarrassed
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« Reply #63 on: 18:54:34, 19-09-2007 »
Regarding Sibelius's Pohjola's Daughter on the radio today, there's a five-note motif (A-B flat-F-G-A : that's A then up, down, up, up) that always makes me think of the song "I Remember You", sung by Frank Ifield (and others).

After the opening clamour has passed at the beginning of the last movement of Mahler's 7th symphony, the opening quiet theme on the oboe starts with the same notes as Lehar's Merry Widow Waltz - that's deliberate, though.

Noel Coward remarked that his "London Pride", Haydn's national anthem theme used in the second movement of his Emperor string quartet, and "Who will buy my sweet red roses" - used in the musical Oliver and an authentic street cry, all start in the same way, although in fact there are slight differences in the notes.
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« Reply #64 on: 00:34:22, 20-09-2007 »
Does 'God Save The Queen' sound exactly the same as the Dawkinian version 'God Won't Save The Queen' ?
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« Reply #65 on: 07:04:38, 20-09-2007 »
what about the joint puccini/lloyd webber composition 'La Fanciulla del opera'?
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« Reply #66 on: 09:18:42, 20-09-2007 »
I can't remember which one as I'm still floating around in my early morning brain-fog but one of the Mozart sonatas definitely has me singing "Vindaloooooo, vindalooooooo, vindaloo, vindaloo, nah nah".  Grin
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« Reply #67 on: 10:23:28, 21-09-2007 »
Did anyone else hear Sibelius' Cortege on Mo3 this morning, with its opening cribbed so shamelessly from John Barry's James Bond music?
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« Reply #68 on: 21:53:59, 24-09-2007 »
Quote from: TimR-J on 18:31:13, 19-09-2007
Jesus Christ Superstar's been mentioned before, but does anyone else hear this hidden in the opening bar or two of Ferneyhough's Cassandra's Dream Song?

No? Just me then  Embarrassed
Doesn't that depend on which order the pages are played?  Wink
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« Reply #69 on: 22:06:17, 24-09-2007 »
Quote from: harmonyharmony on 21:53:59, 24-09-2007
Quote from: TimR-J on 18:31:13, 19-09-2007
Jesus Christ Superstar's been mentioned before, but does anyone else hear this hidden in the opening bar or two of Ferneyhough's Cassandra's Dream Song?

No? Just me then  Embarrassed
Doesn't that depend on which order the pages are played?  Wink

Does Lloyd Webern give that option?
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« Reply #70 on: 22:11:38, 24-09-2007 »
Er, isn't the beginning fixed in CDS? Wink
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« Reply #71 on: 00:01:52, 25-09-2007 »
While re-typeset-engraving (new technology - old terminology) the 13th C. song "Bryd One Brere" it occurred to me that the first phrase is suspiciously familiar.

I suppose the underlying motivation of "Are the stars out tonight" is in keeping.
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« Reply #72 on: 21:11:13, 12-10-2007 »
Couldn't find this thread but the Search facility worked!  Smiley First I tried "pinched" then "copied" which brought me here.

Not an "Unfortunately Similar Musical Moment" but one that I heard yesterday and realised it was the one I'd been trying to recall when I first came across this thread ages ago.

In the last movement of Rachmaninov's 2nd Piano concerto I always hear the words "J'ai vu passer l'hirondelle" in my head as it's the same tune as the opening line of a song I used to sing over 25 years ago - I think it's called Villanelle. Anyone else know it? Pretty little song. It was fun to sing.

Just found it by googling:

"Villanelle" published 1893.

J'ai vu passer l'hirondelle
Dans le ciel pur du matin:
Elle allait, à tire-d'aile,
Vers le pays où l'appelle
Le soleil et le jasmin.
J'ai vu passer l'hirondelle!
J'ai longtemps suivi des yeux
Le vol de la voyageuse...
Depuis, mon âme rêveuse
L'accompagne par les cieux.
Ah! ah! au pays mystérieux!
Et j'aurais voulu comme elle
Suivre le même chemin...
J'ai vu passer l'hirondelle, etc.
     
by Eva Dell'Acqua (1856-1930) 
Words by Frédéric van der Elst
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« Reply #73 on: 21:20:47, 12-10-2007 »
I think this has been mentioned before, if not by me then maybe Tony W: the portrait gallery music in Ruddigore (Sullivan, of course) is a minor key version of Onward Christian Soldiers.

Maybe it's less unfortunate if the same composer is responsible for both... !
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« Reply #74 on: 21:28:54, 12-10-2007 »
Just remembered another very striking similar theme I heard in the recent broadcast of Gluck's Iphigenia in Tauride...in her last, magnificent aria we hear a Bach keyboard piece with distinctive pairs of notes, a falling semitone then rising semitone repeatedly echoing each other in the bass line. Wish I knew what it was, my Grandma Lou used to play it. I first spotted it in the Gluck when I was lucky enough to be in the chorus of this opera as a student - after all these years I really must find out what the Bach is! Anyone else who knows both the aria and the Bach must surely have noticed this too!
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