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Sydney Grew
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« on: 08:29:37, 16-09-2007 »

In the world of to-day we often observe gestures the names of which we are ignorant. Two particularly striking and troubling instances we give here in the hope that Members may be able to enlighten us in our obscurity.

The first relates to stray strands of hair. People - usually women - toss their head to one side or the other, in an usually vain attempt to remove to one side a long dangling lock or two. Often this tossing gesture continues as an incessant and surely bad habit even in the absence of offending locks.

But what is this ugly shake or flick called? Surely it must have a name. Does not everything in this world have a name?
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #1 on: 08:32:51, 16-09-2007 »

The second nameless gesture has a musical - or better unmusical - connection. It was first observed in the nineteen-sixties in unsophisticated people listening to popular music of the worst kind. In order to demonstrate that they understand the music's rhythmic nature - an otiose demonstration in fact demonstrating more the gesturer's musical ignorance than anything much else - they move their head and neck in time with the music, forwards and backwards in a curious avian gesture which we find frightfully ugly.

But what is this curious craning called? It too must have a name must it not? We thank Members in advance for all pertinent contributions to knowledge.
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« Reply #2 on: 10:45:35, 16-09-2007 »

1 is the timotei flick, 2 is dancing.
i find 1 quite endearing, 2 not.
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« Reply #3 on: 11:29:30, 16-09-2007 »

Gesture No 2, in isolation, has little to commend it. It can however be forgiven when performed as an integral part of "Doin' the pigeon". 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWo_0sTCa0&mode=related&search=
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« Reply #4 on: 14:08:54, 16-09-2007 »

It would appear that Mr Grew yet again espouses the purely Apollonian side of the musical art whilst eschewing all Dionysiac tendencies. For some of us, music has the power to move in more senses than one.
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« Reply #5 on: 20:54:01, 16-09-2007 »

It would appear that Mr Grew yet again espouses the purely Appolonian side of the musical art whilst eschewing all Dionysiac tendencies. For some of us, music has the power to move in more senses than one.
I do believe Member Grew laments the goofier movements and stays mum about the more graceful ones. Forfend I should defend him, however.
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« Reply #6 on: 21:10:05, 16-09-2007 »

unsophisticated people listening to popular music of the worst kind. In order to demonstrate that they understand the music's rhythmic nature - an otiose demonstration in fact demonstrating more the gesturer's musical ignorance than anything much else - they move their head and neck in time with the music, forwards and backwards in a curious avian gesture
We have always called this 'bobbing in time'.

The first relates to stray strands of hair. People - usually women - toss their head to one side or the other, in an usually vain attempt to remove to one side a long dangling lock or two. Often this tossing gesture continues as an incessant and surely bad habit even in the absence of offending locks.

But what is this ugly shake or flick called? Surely it must have a name. Does not everything in this world have a name?
Horses do it with their manes, and then it is called tossing. Tossing when applied to the behaviour of people however (men in particular) means something else, and we would not advise its adoption in polite company. Furthermore we are not entirely sure if it may be applied to women, or what precisely it would signify if it were.

One more thought. The tossing of horses' manes is often accompanied by a peculiar sound - a sort of pre-linguistic form of expression. The same might be remarked of human tossing.
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« Reply #7 on: 21:14:02, 16-09-2007 »

I believe the second is merely the Head'n'Shoulders element of playing the Air Guitar.  The actual air-guitar bit is only mastered by those prepared to put in the practice time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_guitar
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« Reply #8 on: 21:17:44, 16-09-2007 »

... toss their head to one side or the other,...
Well Syd. I'm old enough to remember the 'Pogo'. A dance where one would aimlessly jump up and down on the same spot, occasionally and randomly moving ones head to the left or right. It's just art imitating life.
No good for the serious drinker though, you used to spill your pint all over.
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« Reply #9 on: 21:27:21, 16-09-2007 »

One more thought. The tossing of horses' manes is often accompanied by a peculiar sound - a sort of pre-linguistic form of expression. The same might be remarked of human tossing.

Human "tossing" is indeed often accompanied by a peculiar sound.
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« Reply #10 on: 13:04:17, 17-09-2007 »

Headbanging possibly for no.2?
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« Reply #11 on: 13:11:44, 17-09-2007 »

Headbanging possibly for no.2?

I've never heard anybody describe no. 2's as being much anything to do with head-banging.  Have you considered consulting your physician about it?

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« Reply #12 on: 16:48:41, 20-09-2007 »

One more thought. The tossing of horses' manes is often accompanied by a peculiar sound - a sort of pre-linguistic form of expression. The same might be remarked of human tossing.

Human "tossing" is indeed often accompanied by a peculiar sound.

...and as for those of us who are bit shorter....



http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1008/1008678_dwarf_tossing_axed.html

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