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George Garnett
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« Reply #135 on: 14:36:41, 10-05-2008 »

A composting question which is so naive and embarrassingly idiotic that I can't find an answer to it even among the FAQs on the Composting Awareness Week website.

It's like this. Up to now we (sob, sniff) have always had a decent old fashioned healthily steaming compost heap in a corner of the garden somewhere. No clever extras, just a heap au naturel. And I spent many happy and productive hours lovingly tending to its various needs. (Hmmm. Maybe that's where I went wrong: hindsight is a wonderful thing.)

Anyway. Now I've got a garden about a quarter of the size (more sob, sniff) and I was thinking of getting one of those compost ... things. You know, bins. The naive question is: do they have to be open at the bottom with access to the earth so that compost-chomping creatures can come and go at will; or do they still work if you put one in a remarkably convenient place in which it won't end up dominating the sylvan scene but which would mean it is sitting on concrete with no direct access to Mother Gaia?
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« Reply #136 on: 14:59:29, 10-05-2008 »

George, Lynn tells me that it's best to site it on the soil so the creatures can colonise.  I wonder if you could you lift a single slab and site the bin ontop of it so this would happen?
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« Reply #137 on: 15:58:14, 10-05-2008 »

George,

You can build a wooden compost bin (though I do wonder if they just rot away after a while) less garish looking:



The Greenwarehouse fellas do 'em, and maybe Homebase or B&Q do too

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« Reply #138 on: 16:04:27, 10-05-2008 »

Our buy some screening for your plastic bin - this is what we have done and it looks good!
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« Reply #139 on: 16:32:17, 10-05-2008 »

This might be a naive answer, but could you just import some worms from elsewhere in the EU garden? You can even buy special compost worms.

(It sounds grim, but I have an inkling that you need at least some sort of outlet to drain any excess worm 'liquor' that might build up. Worm composting bins tend to look more like water butts in that respect, with a tap at the bottom.)
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« Reply #140 on: 18:09:17, 10-05-2008 »

Thanks all for the compost advice. The concrete area I was thinking of doesn't really come in removable slabs so I think I will go for the option of building myself a modest little wooden effort in a corner somewhere and maybe grow something in front of it. I'm even tempted to send off for the 'Wiggly Wigglers' catalogue too to give it all a kick start. Thanks all Smiley
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« Reply #141 on: 21:01:27, 10-05-2008 »

Hi George, I bought 2 of The Recycle Works' single wooden bins then assembled them a little apart but linked together to create 3 bins...using some of the top planks to create the back and front of the middle one. I was lucky as several planks were mouldy on arrival and when I rang up to request replacements they sent them but didn't want the mouldy ones back so I then had extra to create my cheating middle bin! The wood has lasted very well and looks nicely weathered now.

I'll be leaving them behind when I too have a much smaller garden  Cry - I might buy myself a single wooden one. Though at present I also have a black plastic bin which works well so I may just get another of those. I'm amazed at how quickly those little red worms appear even without any material from an existing compost heap - the black bin lid is always crawling with them - it's difficult to replace it without squidging them.

Happy composting! Smiley

PS I'd have the bin on bare earth and start with a shovelful of compost from a mature heap to speed things up.
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A composting question which is so naive and embarrassingly idiotic
No it isn't!
And I spent many happy and productive hours lovingly tending to its various needs. (Hmmm. Maybe that's where I went wrong: hindsight is a wonderful thing.)
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« Reply #142 on: 21:15:18, 10-05-2008 »

The only problem that I've found with compost bins on the ground is that rats can easily burrow in if you put kitchen scraps on the heap.  One answer is of course to keep food waste separated but it's easy to slip up so I now keep my plastic bins on a brick base which allows the red brandling worms to get through the gaps bewteen the bricks but keeps out rats.  I also us the Recycle Works bins and they are fine but like all wood products don't last indefinitely especially if one is a little robust in one's handling of them.  If you can bear the look of them, standard wooden pallets make an ideally sized compost bin and can be found for little or no cost and there is alweays the rather fine looking beehive composter, very simple and cheap to make and designed by the late great Geoff Hamilton, which can look very decorative indeed if stained/painted.  Whichever method you use... happy composting.  Any suggestions for music to compost by?
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« Reply #143 on: 21:23:22, 10-05-2008 »

Any suggestions for music to compost by?
"Worm,
Eat again,
Don't know where,
Don't know when"



PS Anyone here thinking of applying to be Donald Macleod's Composter of the Week?  Cheesy
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« Reply #144 on: 21:35:08, 10-05-2008 »

Geoff Hamilton was amazing, especially when it came to compost. His ecstasy as he ran his fingers through some of his well-rotted compost was a delight to behold.

Rats are a problem if there's any access to the bin. I had an open bin into which I'd deposited some old broad beans out of the freezer. Sure enough I soon saw a rat nibbling away at them.
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« Reply #145 on: 21:47:46, 10-05-2008 »

Geoff Hamilton was amazing, especially when it came to compost. His ecstasy as he ran his fingers through some of his well-rotted compost was a delight to behold.
His premature death was such a shock and so sad - he was a lovely man and inspirational gardener.
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« Reply #146 on: 01:01:54, 11-05-2008 »

Happy composting! Smiley

Thank you! Lots more valuable advice here. I now feel fully compost mentis.

(I'll get me trug.)
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« Reply #147 on: 12:30:38, 11-05-2008 »

I wonder how Pond Clearing Sunday is progressing?  Smiley
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« Reply #148 on: 12:57:37, 11-05-2008 »

I wonder how Pond Clearing Sunday is progressing?  Smiley

And Lo, it came to pass that a multitude of Pond Clearists gathered in gardens all over the land and after The Ceremonial Blessing of The Green Wellies they surrendered themselves unto the task of siphoning off the abomination that had once previously been clean but which was no longer clean.  And to every pond dwelling creature, great or small, they extended their fishing nets and plucked them into the safety of the Blessed Buckets, so that they were free from harm and they were not sore afraid, and every creature gave up their thanks to the Pond Clearists for their Salvation and their eventual return to the newly clear and refreshing waters of The Pond.  And it was good.
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« Reply #149 on: 13:09:24, 11-05-2008 »

And the Lord said unto the Pond Clearists, 'Let the sprinkling commence'. And it was so, yea even on pain of visitation unto Homebase. And the Lord further did say, 'Taketh care that thy wellies do not become too besmerch'd of the foul substances of the Earth, nor trample my Creatures underfoot be they small or large, and above all else divest thyself thereof before entring thine abode else suffer the wrath of thine life-partner and child'.
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