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MabelJane
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« Reply #180 on: 20:30:43, 09-06-2008 »


Philadelphus, well, I do recall planting one but I'm really sure it's on the other side and hasn't flowered yet.
I thought of Philadelphus before reading Anty's post, John, but the real test is to inhale its perfume at dusk...heavenly if it is indeed a Philadelphus. Its flowers do vary in size, though those do look quite small.
The little notebook ...... of course I've put it somewhere safe........
It'll be in that garage of yours John!  Cheesy
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« Reply #181 on: 20:58:58, 09-06-2008 »

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Philadelphus, well, I do recall planting one but I'm really sure it's on the other side and hasn't flowered yet.

John,

If smells like orange blossom when it finally flowers, it's Philadelphus. Fabulous smell. I think it's called 'Mock Orange Blossom' sometimes
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« Reply #182 on: 21:09:06, 09-06-2008 »

I remember Escallonia being vey common in those eight-foot high hedgerows along the windy small roads of Cornwall.

Escallonia is a seaside plant par excellence.  We have a couple of bushes in the garden and it is absolutely rampant - would happlily take the place over if it wasn't cut back regularly.
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« Reply #183 on: 21:35:31, 09-06-2008 »

MJ, Mort,
That white-flowered shrub has no smell at all, neither flower nor squashed leaves, also the eleven little bells on little twig have five petals wheras just googling Philadelphus seems to always have four petals..... but I have Dr Hessayon's Tree & Shrub Expert book on the desk here and Philadelphus virginalis is bell-shaped and might have more petals, and now I googled this below, looks like it,

But why no orangy fragrance? My photo looks rather crappy in comparison - my flowers are much smaller, the leaves don't look the same either my shrub's are very symmetrical



pw, yes my Escallonia has merged with the shrubs either side but I did thin it out last month.
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« Reply #184 on: 21:37:58, 09-06-2008 »

Escallonia is a seaside plant par excellence.  We have a couple of bushes in the garden and it is absolutely rampant - would happlily take the place over if it wasn't cut back regularly.

This little devil?



You got that right, PW. It redefines the term, 'hardy'.  Angry
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« Reply #185 on: 23:32:59, 10-06-2008 »

I think this is a variety of Erodium or Heron's Bill


This is erodium manescavii....


The leaves on your don't look quite the right shape.  Are they small?  At first glance I thought it was a geranium (cranesbill).

Anyway, I find from here that it's the number of stamen that determine whether it is a stork's, heron's, or crane's bill.  I can't quite count them from your image, but perhaps your could.

Some geraniums...


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« Reply #186 on: 16:33:32, 11-06-2008 »

As I can't find the 'Look what I bought' thread, this will have to go here....



...along with a couple of nice Veronicas and a Salvia Purple Rain

Tommo

PS   Member Barrett and "The Artist formerly known as..." on the same gardening post?  What is going on...!
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« Reply #187 on: 16:44:29, 11-06-2008 »

I   'ad a coupla of Veronicas in the back ov me garden once. No, honest! But they did a runner. Probably got sl--gg-ed <dark anger emoticon>
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« Reply #188 on: 18:08:34, 11-06-2008 »

That melianthus looks lovely Tommo, very dramatic.  I find veronica grows like a weed.

My garden is a total disgrace, a total jungle, at the moment.  I am going to get a quote from someone to sort it out.  Trouble is his name is Damian  Shocked  and according to his website he has a passion for music.  I can't imagine what he might be like!!!  Either it'll be Radio 1 blasting out or he'll be singing arias whilst he wrestles with the ragwort!
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« Reply #189 on: 20:52:03, 11-06-2008 »

whilst he wrestles with the ragwort!
The other day an eagle-eyed friend spotted ragwort in our lawn, just where I'd put the bunny's run - aaaargh! I don't think he'd nibbled any. I then spent an hour digging small ragworts out of the lawn. I knew there were some in a border and had removed quite a few last year but hadn't realised it had invaded the lawn. Horrible stuff - causes irreversible, fatal liver damage to horses and cattle and possibly rabbits too. Pretty flowers though and quite an amazing sight when covered in those cinnibar moth caterpillars.
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« Reply #190 on: 21:52:06, 11-06-2008 »

Here's some ragwort I took in July 2006 at Halesowen Cricket Club, pretty flowers as you say MJ



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« Reply #191 on: 22:09:04, 11-06-2008 »

Thanks for guidance Tommo. I've counted the stamens by pulling off the anthers of fresh flowers, and counting them

The pink flower (3cms), here, has seven stamens so is Pelargonium


the purple flower (5cms), here, has ten stamens so is Geranium


Hey, I'm learning about plants! I have Dr Hessayon's 'Rock and Water Garden' book which doesn't list/feature the Pelargonium. Looks like Wiki is the gardener's site for the technical detail.


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« Reply #192 on: 21:43:15, 12-06-2008 »

Thanks for guidance Tommo. I've counted the stamens by pulling off the anthers of fresh flowers, and counting them

The pink flower (3cms), here, has seven stamens so is Pelargonium


Hmm...looks a bit like geraniumn endressii to me John. I have at least half a dozen different geraniums in my garden but there are 100s.


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« Reply #193 on: 22:15:39, 12-06-2008 »

The late great Graham Stuart-Thomas is very good on geraniums, as well as alost everything else in the ornamental garden and I'd recommend his 'Perennial Garden Plants' to anyone wanting a well informed and very discerning guide on these plants.  He's first rate on roses too as well as much else.
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« Reply #194 on: 22:54:16, 12-06-2008 »

Hmm...looks a bit like geraniumn endressii to me John. I have at least half a dozen different geraniums in my garden but there are 100s.

Yes it does, and I thought it looked like Erodium but as tommo/wiki says it's all in the stamens/anthers, and if you look at my large photo you can see there's not 10.

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The little notebook ...... of course I've put it somewhere safe........
It'll be in that garage of yours John!  Cheesy

Ha, not in the garage in fact the garden map wasn't in a notebook, it was drawn on an A4 sheet that I've just this evening found in ..... tucked in the back pages of the very book I was looking at before  Cheesy it's been there for maybe 13 or more years (the back pages are of trees of which I have just two in the garden, a cherry and a plum - that darn plum tree, at any one time there's about a dozen tiny plum trees sprouting around the garden  Sad

I did also find 'the notebook' I was thinking of, which was in fact about the pond that was created about the same time.

So I've identified the two white flowered shrubs. I was sure Philadelphus was not on that side of the garden and indeed my trusty map tells me it's a Deutzia and the variety is Deutzia gracilis the very one on wiki's page on that shrub.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutzia

There's a lot of plants/shrubs not survived since the the map was drawn, the hardiest shrubs have taken over and formed an eight-foot high wall of foliage two sides of the garden, including the other white-flowered shrub that I pictured above which if I'm selecting correctly from the map appears to be Cytisus Alba or a white variety of Broom, it has some nasty thorns on it now, up to 2cms long.

Out of about 50 shrubs planted in the garden, about 20 have survived. I didn't buy all 50, most of them were grown from small clippings that I learned to grow in little pots with little plastic bags over them. Anyone else done that? I picked the clippings from local areas, mostly landscaping round supermarkets and business parks  Smiley

I know the variety of the roses now, and I found the real Philadelphus on the other side of the garden, just starting to flower this week.


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