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I've been watching the mid-60s TV version of Batman which BBC4 have been showing - very funny. But is it? I find it hard to watch something like this in the context of its times - is it postmodern irony? deadly serious? a riproaring adventure? a gay love story? the triumph of philanthropy over materialistic greed? watch tomorrow, same bat-time, same bat-channel!  |
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #1 on: 02:09:15, 11-11-2007 » |
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Definitely tricky. I don't think it took itself particularly seriously at the time, but it does seem to have acquired a subtle fragrance of association with a particular subculture. Quite apart from the fact that Bruce Wayne liked dressing up in Spandex to fight Meredith Burgess, in the US, Robin is typically a girl's name.  I must have been impossibly naieve. And so were my parents. And the horse we rode in on. Of course, it's all much more serious these days.  |
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George Garnett
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« Reply #2 on: 08:31:52, 11-11-2007 » |
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The telly series was I'm fairly sure deliberately high camp and knowing first time round. That's how I remember it at the time anyway. Part of the fun, and for the writers too I assume, was seeing just how far they could take it and still get away with it. Quite far, it turns out, without anyone pulling the plug (no sniggering at the back there). Dunno about post-modern irony but definitely irony.
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« Reply #3 on: 10:45:09, 11-11-2007 » |
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And the acting ability of sidekick Robin is still breathtaking . . .
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« Reply #4 on: 11:49:53, 12-11-2007 » |
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Before you decide what it was, can you define who it was made for? Eight-year olds or their parents?
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« Reply #5 on: 12:25:25, 12-11-2007 » |
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Before you decide what it was, can you define who it was made for? Eight-year olds or their parents?
I'm not entirely comfortable myself with this pseudo-industrial use of the word 'made'. It seems to implicitly deny the self-evident-ness of the enormous creative and visionary aspects of the series (and, indeed, the subsequent movie). And, as a 'product' (pardon my language) of pure artistic expression, I do not see that the question has any relevance; it was a spontaneous utterance of the muses, and moves all who should cast eye on it. That the later, uninspired, incarnations were lacking this can be evinced from the introduction of the nippled suit, its presence revealing the very absence it seeks to cover, the lack of focus they thought they could compensate by the rather pointed implication of our heroes' (presumably heroic) nipples. It seems thoroughly anachronistic that any modern works of art should have to revert (we might better say 'default') to mere human physiology. And yes, I do know that bats have nipples, but a quick comparison should show the anthropomorphic character of Mr Clooney's batman's armour's nipples:   . |
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« Reply #6 on: 13:05:26, 12-11-2007 » |
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Poor chap doesn`t appear to have had nipples when he first appeared. Mind you, he was a lot younger then ....  |
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« Reply #7 on: 13:11:00, 12-11-2007 » |
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His young sidekick seems to have a single, somewhat deformed left nipple.
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« Reply #8 on: 13:19:22, 12-11-2007 » |
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Poor chap doesn`t appear to have had nipples when he first appeared. Mind you, he was a lot younger then ....
I'm trying really hard to remember how old I was when I grew my nipples.  |
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« Reply #9 on: 13:23:33, 12-11-2007 » |
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Hmm, I wonder what kind of ads this thread is going to bring up? Don`t look Ethel!! |
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George Garnett
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« Reply #10 on: 13:29:16, 12-11-2007 » |
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Let us not forget, nipple-watchers, that the original Batman, circa 1939, was very like the one that the later films reverted to. Nipples were, vey properly, kept draped in those days so as not to divert from the war effort.  The telly one was a 60s reinvention for 60s (60's?) children and their 60s (60's?) parents. |
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« Reply #11 on: 13:31:11, 12-11-2007 » |
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The 60s TV series was my very first TV passion (as in if the 60s me were to miss an episode my world will end). I would have killed to have a driveable pedal-car version of this, which was stocked at the local toyshop but beyond the purse of my 60s parents (and beyond their moral line in the sand anyway):  |
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George Garnett
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« Reply #12 on: 13:33:32, 12-11-2007 » |
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I'm trying really hard to remember how old I was when I grew my nipples. Never mind when, Froggle. Where?!  |
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« Reply #13 on: 13:35:55, 12-11-2007 » |
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Let us not forget, nipple-watchers, that the original Batman, circa 1939, was very like the one that the later films reverted to. The telly one was a 60s reinvention for 60s (60's?) children and their 60s (60's?) parents. Hmmm...shoulderpads. I think I preferred the nipples! |
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« Reply #14 on: 13:43:44, 12-11-2007 » |
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Never mind when, Froggle. Where?!
Slipped my mind for the moment, George.  |
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