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Author Topic: The Internal Muzak thread  (Read 1950 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 14:40:24, 21-11-2007 »

'Earworm' is just a literal translation of a fairly normal German word. I seem to remember Ollie mentioning a record shop a while back called Herr somebody-or-other's Ohrwurmoase (oasis of catchy tunes!).

I have a few that recur regularly, rather like dreams but more irritating and less meaningful. One is the first movement of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, which has been a problem ever since I wrote an analysis essay on it for 'A'-level music (I think it was the first sonata form I ever analysed on my own). Another is a tune I wrote myself for what I naively imagined at the age of 16/17 could count as a Symphony of my own, although I can now see that it's about the most unsymphonic tune imaginable. The fact that it's essentially a C major rising scale with octave displacements doesn't really help; nor does the resolutely moderato tempo or its tendency to loop round and round back to its beginning, although that does seem to be one of the factors allowing it to stick in my brain (similarly with the Beethoven 'Pastoral': I rarely actually very far into the movement, the exposition or fragments thereof just play on auto-repeat until I get run over by a passing bus or my head meets a lamppost/squirrel/banana-skin etc.).
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« Reply #16 on: 15:13:48, 21-11-2007 »

I have a few that recur regularly, rather like dreams but more irritating and less meaningful. One is the first movement of Beethoven's 6th Symphony, which has been a problem ever since I wrote an analysis essay on it for 'A'-level music (I think it was the first sonata form I ever analysed on my own). Another is a tune I wrote myself for what I naively imagined at the age of 16/17 could count as a Symphony of my own, although I can now see that it's about the most unsymphonic tune imaginable. The fact that it's essentially a C major rising scale with octave displacements doesn't really help; nor does the resolutely moderato tempo or its tendency to loop round and round back to its beginning, although that does seem to be one of the factors allowing it to stick in my brain (similarly with the Beethoven 'Pastoral': I rarely actually very far into the movement, the exposition or fragments thereof just play on auto-repeat until I get run over by a passing bus or my head meets a lamppost/squirrel/banana-skin etc.).
I had that for the opening of the second movement of *that* Tchaikovsky PC.  And it would loop around over and over.  And for years I didn't know what piece it was part of.
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« Reply #17 on: 15:18:56, 21-11-2007 »

If the Performing Rights Society could get into my cranium they'd be pursuing me for about 20 years of back-payments for almost all of the Brandenburg Concertos...  particularly No #3 last movement,  when it goes off into that descending cycle-of-fifths that I always misremember,  and end up swirling around in the lower depths looking for the exit to the tonic key again...

Also spinning in my head this week I've had Fennimore's aria from SILBERSEE (prompted by a mention on these boards, no doubt), the witches from Verdi's MACBETH, and the DSCH Piano Concerto No 1...   in fact they are ALL due to mentions here!!   Shocked
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« Reply #18 on: 15:40:05, 21-11-2007 »

The Major General's song has a semi-permanent residence in my brain. But it always goes as follows:

I am the very model of a modern major general
de da de da de da da da de da da da da vegetable
da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da I am the very model of a modern major general


You'd think that after a few thousand repetitions my brain would get the words right  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #19 on: 15:48:57, 21-11-2007 »

Believe me, IRF, when I say that not knowing the words of G&S patter songs is always best, because when you DO know all the words, you end up with the song on the brain in its entirety.

The Nightmare Song from Iolanthe is the worst, as it's linear rather than strophic, so you can't even "just" have all of one verse going round your head... but I suppose that's the point!

Which reminds me - another thing on my internal muzak yesterday was the Act 1 finale (or excerpts thereof) from Iolanthe.  The connection was that I was listening to William Dazeley and Claire Rutter standing side by side singing Carmina Burana, and all I could think was that the last time I saw them sing together was as Strephon and Phyllis in the Iolanthe Prom seven years ago.
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« Reply #20 on: 15:53:19, 21-11-2007 »

Right now it's lots of songs from Carousel

Damn you, Tommo! It's going to be 'When I marry Mr. Snow' for the rest of the afternoon.  Grin

Trust me, one afternoon is bettter than a whole fortnight......

Actually, 'My Boy Bill' is spinning right now.

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« Reply #21 on: 17:33:36, 21-11-2007 »

That would be Schmocki's Ohrwurmoase, Güterstrasse 271, Basel, CH-4053, +41 61 331 10 11. Smiley

Has 'earworm' actually made it into English now then? I'd be glad to hear it. I'm always wondering how to say it in English without just saying 'tune what gets stuck in your head'. Ohrwurm is the German for 'earwig'... but I can't see that catching on.
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« Reply #22 on: 18:09:35, 21-11-2007 »

Currently, R Schumann: Gesänge der Frühe op.133, no. 1

A most pleasant


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« Reply #23 on: 18:21:00, 21-11-2007 »

Believe me, IRF, when I say that not knowing the words of G&S patter songs is always best, because when you DO know all the words, you end up with the song on the brain in its entirety.

The Nightmare Song from Iolanthe is the worst, as it's linear rather than strophic, so you can't even "just" have all of one verse going round your head... but I suppose that's the point!

And repose is tabooed by anxiety...
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« Reply #24 on: 18:38:24, 21-11-2007 »

I'm not quite so sure about 'earworm', you know. Is that where they actually reside? Mine tend to torment me from a position round about 1 cm behind the centre of my forehead, near the top. Just where you can't get at them.

There's one that I've had sitting there for about thirty years now. It's a cheerful little rising phrase at the beginning of one of Vivaldi's Flute Concerti. I've no idea which one it comes from and it's possible it is the beginning of a third movement rather than a first movement but my money is on a first movement. I only know it from an LP (long, long lost) by Jean-Pierre Rampal. It might have been on a 'Turnabout' (?) LP, if there were such things.

I don't think I have ever heard it since, except in my head about a million times.

This afternoon though it's been non-stop "When I marry Mr Snow". Thank you, Tommo. 
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« Reply #25 on: 18:54:51, 21-11-2007 »

Oh yes, GG, there were Turnabout LPs. Many of them had rather colourful, cartoon-like covers. I had two dics from the series, I think: Arbeau's Orchesographie (the source of the tunes for Warlock's Capriol Suite, and a Copland disc conducted by Donald Johanos. Sourced from American Vox, produced by Decca, they retailed at 17/6 when first released - around 1967, IIRC.

Perhaps they're earworms because of their point of entry, rather than place of eventual residence. Would the slang term for them be lugworms?
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« Reply #26 on: 19:11:16, 21-11-2007 »

Oh yes, GG, there were Turnabout LPs. Many of them had rather colourful, cartoon-like covers... they retailed at 17/6 when first released - around 1967, IIRC.

Those are the ones, Ron!
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« Reply #27 on: 22:01:28, 21-11-2007 »

I only know it from an LP (long, long lost) by Jean-Pierre Rampal. It might have been on a 'Turnabout' (?) LP, if there were such things.

Yes indeed, I used to have that one too, featuring IIRC Robert Veyron-Lacroix on (highly ornate) harpsichord continuo and the Louis de Froment Chamber Ensemble, which sounded like they were using one string player per part, rather radically in those days, though on modern instruments of course. Whenever I hear anyone else's performances of those pieces (Stephen Preston with the English Concert is my favourite) the ghost of that old recording is always in the background, especially no.5 with its muted strings and (in this case) lute-stopped harpsichord.
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« Reply #28 on: 22:05:06, 21-11-2007 »

Of late, my internal muzak tends to the bass lines from various classic rock performances.  At the moment, it's the fade-out run from Deep Purple's 'Space Trucking'.
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« Reply #29 on: 22:15:30, 21-11-2007 »

Oh, and, while I'm here, my brain has been oscillating wildly between the Anthony Braxton piece (Composition no.354) I was listening to in the car, the opening of RVW's 5th, and some music that doesn't yet exist anywhere else and probably according to at least one Member I can think of is is it not probably best kept where it is.
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