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Author Topic: The Internal Muzak thread  (Read 1950 times)
Ruth Elleson
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« on: 10:32:30, 21-11-2007 »

...or to put it another way, a "Now spinning..." thread exclusively dedicated to whatever piece of music you happen to have on the brain.

I started this thread because I have music on the brain constantly, and I have a tendency to hum or whistle without really realising it.  A couple of weeks ago I was overheard in the office kitchen whistling the Grand March from 'Aida' and chastised by my colleagues for getting it stuck in their heads too Grin

And three weeks on from the ROH Ring, I've still got bits of leitmotif creeping into my consciousness when I least expect it!

Today's offering: bits of Carmina Burana, thanks to last night's concert.  But a few minutes ago it was Schubert's 'An die Musik', hence my new sig.  (It certainly isn't always related to something I've recently heard performed.)
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« Reply #1 on: 10:53:49, 21-11-2007 »

It tends to be something which has been planted subconsciously in the brain by a mention here, Ruth: more often than not, it won't be an instantly recognisable bit, either, causing some scratching around in the recesses. Today I've had a tiny insistent three chord phrase on strings running through my head: oddly modal. It's only when it joined up with a fragment of piano that I realised it was part of the bridge passage in the Khatchaturian Piano Concerto's first movement.

It tends not to be whole themes but those wonderful little ear-wormy phrases: masses of Tippett bits, and at the moment, since we've been discussing him, three or four works by Martin Butler (a contemporary composer whose music plugs straight into my brain, and a man not exactly unknown to these boards).  Most of the time I can identify straight away: but it's really frustrating when you can't quite place where a tenacious phrase hails from.
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« Reply #2 on: 11:11:19, 21-11-2007 »

Thanks to the Missa Solemnis thread, I've had going through my head the bit towards the end where the chorus quietly pleads "Donna nobis pacem" only to be interrupted by the distant and sinister martial thrum of the timpani.  Heartbreaking, and I wish it would stop.
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« Reply #3 on: 11:21:14, 21-11-2007 »

Good idea for a thread, Ruth.  Like Ron, my music on the brain tends to come via the indirect sub-conscious route, rather than something  I`ve recently heard. The other day it was a song from The Mikado which I did not want in my head, but it wouldn`t go away.

The same thing happens with words. I will wake up with a word stuck in my brain. Yesterday it was `palimpset`. I have no idea where it came from Huh
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« Reply #4 on: 11:22:28, 21-11-2007 »

This is very common with me, and utterly annoying when whatever piece or fragment of music it is refuses to budge. More often than not, it's NOT a pre-existing piece but a little melodic shape, usually of staggering triteness, that just circles round and round.

Right now, though, for some completely unacountable reason, it's Wedding Day at Troldhaugen. UH?! (And Ron, I have a similar problem getting that Butler chappie out of my head, once he's in it.  Cry)
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« Reply #5 on: 11:26:43, 21-11-2007 »

Strina - one of the most frustrating things to get stuck on the brain is something that's technically difficult and challenging.

If any part of the Missa Solemnis gets stuck in my mind, it's generally the second (fast) half of the 'Et vitam venturi' fugue, which is one of those infuriating choral passages which ties the brain in knots even in performance, especially when you've been planted in the middle of a large unwieldy choir to keep the damn thing going.  One of these days, perhaps I will have the good fortune to sing it in a choir whose every member is perfectly capable of singing that passage.  This, perhaps, would leave me with a memory of clear semiquavers. Until then, I'd prefer not to have it on the brain  Angry
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« Reply #6 on: 11:28:24, 21-11-2007 »

Yesterday it was `palimpset`.

What, the hypertext application for creating web and print based applications? What a strange thing to pop into your mind. I'd scrub it and think of something new to cover it up, if I were you, especially as it appears to have been partly deleted already. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: 11:38:03, 21-11-2007 »

Yesterday it was `palimpset`.

 as it appears to have been partly deleted already. Wink

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« Reply #8 on: 12:55:48, 21-11-2007 »

On this subject, has anyone read the recent book by Oliver Sachs on music and the brain (it's called musicophilia)?  I heard Music Matters a few weeks ago with Petroc talking to him about it and it was most interesting.  Apparently, tunes and fragments that stick in your brain are called "earworms" (rather an unpleasant title if you ask me!)
I hope to find it in the library soon and have a read as it sounds interesting.
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« Reply #9 on: 13:13:34, 21-11-2007 »

Apparently, tunes and fragments that stick in your brain are called "earworms" (rather an unpleasant title if you ask me!)
I hope to find it in the library soon and have a read as it sounds interesting.
I haven't read it, but Ron Dough's already used the term "earworm" earlier in this thread.

Of course, some people call them Leitmotifs and use them as the basis for their entire compositional career Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: 13:17:30, 21-11-2007 »

Jonathan, I didn`t hear the interview but I did read an excerpt from the book, think it was in The Grauniad. I found it absolutely fascinating. In fact it answered a question in relation to a recent patient of ours that had had us baffled. The book has now gone on my To Buy list.

Anyway, back to Internal Muzak .....
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« Reply #11 on: 13:21:08, 21-11-2007 »

Right now it's lots of songs from Carousel (as I'm spending my evenings playing in a pit).

Generally, I quite often find "The Thieving Magpie" in there.

Oh, and just then, unbidden came the Horn call from Brahms 1st symphony last movement (before it goes allegro).

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« Reply #12 on: 13:29:26, 21-11-2007 »

Right now it's lots of songs from Carousel

Damn you, Tommo! It's going to be 'When I marry Mr. Snow' for the rest of the afternoon.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: 13:47:51, 21-11-2007 »

I have now moved on to "Above measure is the pleasure", Juno's bonkers little aria from the last act of Semele.
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« Reply #14 on: 13:48:38, 21-11-2007 »

Oh no!  Did you have to say that, Martle? Groan.   Grin
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