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Author Topic: The Vegetarian Room  (Read 4392 times)
Morticia
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« Reply #45 on: 13:49:40, 13-01-2008 »

I suppose someone had to, Reiner! Cheesy Cheesy I had my money on Martle or Tommo Grin
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« Reply #46 on: 13:53:40, 13-01-2008 »

Damn, just too late!



Mort, that's a really smelly brilliant looking recipe, thanks!
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« Reply #47 on: 13:55:53, 13-01-2008 »

As to the problem with flatulence, my understanding is that it is worse (for those susceptible) when using dried beans and that you should discard the soaking water because using this makes the problem worse.  Also, those who rarely eat beans suffer more than those to whom beans are a staple of the diet.  Lentils and aduki are evidently the ones which cause the least problems.

I have a cupboard with just about every variety of bean, but you have to check because some have added sugar and salt.   My local supermarket stocks a huge range.  I also use Spelt quite a lot, which is a wheat.  As for baked beans, this has been mentioned before, but look out for the tinned giant Greek beans in tomato sauce - wonderful!

p.s.  Just found this on the Net  "Discard the soaking water.  Some nutrition-in the form of minerals is lost, but you are getting rid of up to 80% of the oligosaccharides that cause flatulence"
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« Reply #48 on: 14:01:43, 13-01-2008 »

Oooo, that`s just reminded me of a great Greek bean recipe. You substitute butter beans if you can`t get Gigantes Plaki.

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« Reply #49 on: 14:10:27, 13-01-2008 »

If I could just recommend one vegetarian cookery book it would be Madhur Jaffrey's Eastern Vegetarian Cookery, not just recipes from India but China, Japan, Phillipines, Korea, Middle East, Thailand.  Fairly hefty at 506 pages but invaluable.  I have had it for years and used to use it a lot, this Thread has prompted me to look at it again.  Not expensive either.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastern-Vegetarian-Cooking-Madhur-Jaffrey/dp/0099777207

Snap! This is the cover of my copy, I've posted it before since it's in my photobucket but it might have been elsewhere.

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« Reply #50 on: 14:20:08, 13-01-2008 »

For those unfamiliar with Spelt (which I mentioned a couple of posts ago) it is a wonderfully nutty, slightly chewy grain which even after processing retains proteins and carbohydrates and is high in niacin, iron and potassium.  Sold in small tins.  This is a lovely salad lunch (serves one)

In a medium bowl, mash some garlic and small amount of salt to a paste with a fork or pestle. Whisk in some balsamic vinegar and pepper. Whisk in small amount of good olive oil.

Add chopped tomatoes, onion (or spring onion), chives, chopped parsley and torn basil leaves to one drained can of spelt. Toss to combine. Add vinegar/garlic/oil mixture. Toss to coat. Adjust salt and pepper if needed. Serve with crusty bread or garlic bread.  Delicious!

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« Reply #51 on: 14:33:37, 13-01-2008 »

What do British veggies eat these days if they only have 10 mins to rustle something together?  Are frozen veggieburgers still a standby item?

Haven't had a veggieburger for ages. The only bought convenience food I keep in the freezer are a few pizzas but they'd take more than 10mins from frozen. I've got lots of frozen home-made curries/chillis which can be ready in the time it takes to cook the rice - 10-12mins in my case Wink - or even quicker served with a shop-bought naan.

Quick dishes for me are often pasta-based (see reply #18 earlier) but that took about 18-20 mins. I also use cous-cous quite a bit as it only needs to stand for 5 mins in boiled water. If I'm even shorter of time I'll cook the pasta and stir it into a mix of extra virgin, garlic, blackpepper and pinenuts cooked for 30secs in the microwave, perhaps sprinkle with veggie parmesan if I can find the stuff. Angry Or mix it with some pesto from a little jar. If it really has to be 10 minutes I'd "bake" some spuds in the microwave Wink top with mayo and chilli and serve with toms/cucumber/carrots/peppers etc. Or make a sarnie!

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« Reply #52 on: 14:42:34, 13-01-2008 »

For those unfamiliar with Spelt

I've never heard of it, must admit. Is it like bulgur wheat? which I use quite a lot. Your recipe sounds quite like tabbouleh which uses bw.
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« Reply #53 on: 14:54:31, 13-01-2008 »

Anna, I think I`ll have to add the Jaffrey to my Slater order. That`s a jolly good price!

Andy, do you use the Jaffrey book much?  Do you find the recipes useful?
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« Reply #54 on: 15:03:11, 13-01-2008 »

For those unfamiliar with Spelt
I've never heard of it, must admit. Is it like bulgur wheat? which I use quite a lot. Your recipe sounds quite like tabbouleh which uses bw.

Andy, it is a wheat but not a refined grain so retains the husk, a bit like brown rice really.  It has a truly lovely nutty taste.  Sometimes I add it to a veggie pasta sauce.  I suppose my recipe is tabbouleh but with a different base.  Try it.  You can also buy tins of mixed (organic) beans which also contain spelt.

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« Reply #55 on: 15:29:02, 13-01-2008 »

Spelt:



Now then, martle's aduki bean salad. The catch with this is the time it takes to chop all the veg, but it is very well worth it! I've tried using a machine, or shortcutting by chopping less finely, but it's not the same.

Equal parts (by volume) of fresh, cooked aduki beans, and VERY, VERY finely chopped radishes, celery, red onion and parsley. Mix together with a lightish vinaigrette and a generous squeeze of lemon juice. That's it! You can adjust the relative quantities of beans and veg (use rather more beans, for instance) but I find equal measures works best.
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« Reply #56 on: 16:56:21, 13-01-2008 »

Tonight I will have a black bean stew, which is basically red onion, fresh chilli and garlic, gently cooked, to which is added black beans, rose harissa paste, a chopped red pepper and tinned cherry tomatoes, some tomato paste if you need it to thicken more.  Served with a sprinkle of chopped flat parsley and healthy dollops of Greek yoghurt and rice.

Very simple, easy to cook, colourful and absolutely lovely.
This is very similar to a recipe in the current issue of Waitrose's instore magazine, "Seasons".  Except yours has red pepper and garlic, and the Waitrose one uses neither but also contains chopped apricots and ginger.
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« Reply #57 on: 17:14:47, 13-01-2008 »

Ruth,

Basically veggie bean based recipes don't have any hard and fast rules, it's a question of a bit of this, and a bit of that.  I am not too fond of fruit cooked in main courses but I might try that with some added apricots.  There are a million and one recipes for bean chillie.

I do think what this Thread has proved is how inventive we are, and that, I think, is the whole point of veggie cookery, you don't try and substitute some nasty factory produced something in place of the meat but you approach the whole subject with an open mind and draw upon the traditonial veg dishes from the countries where 90% are veggies because they are poor and there is no meat.  Think Middle East, Turkey, Greece, India, Southern Italy (who gave us the pizza!), China, etc.  It's a wonderful creative cookery world out there.
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« Reply #58 on: 17:32:40, 13-01-2008 »

Black bean chilli for me ce soir, but with not an apricot in sight. Like Anna, I`m not terribly keen on fruit cooked in a main course. Fruit cooked in cakes is an altogether different matter! Grin Apple cake, par example. Apricot and white chocolate brownies, Passion Fruit custard cake, blueberry muffins ... ohhh, I must stop!

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« Reply #59 on: 17:44:10, 13-01-2008 »

you don't try and substitute some nasty factory produced something in place of the meat

But you CAN do that too Smiley  My goulash recipe would be anathema to any Hungarian or Serbian... in fact I served it to a London-born Hungarian friend (whose mum used to play in the ROH orchestra and arrived from Budapest to do so) and his verdict was "well, it's edible, but meatless goulash is like fishless bouillabaise".  However, it makes a fairly classic dish (moreover an economic and low-calorie one) available to the veggie diner, and I think it's entirely defensible Smiley   Not all meat-substitutes are "nasty" - I am entirely happy with tvp chunks, and there's been a chorus of support so far for Quorn dishes too.  Tofu, of course, has as much of a pedigree as meat, although not always as used by veggies.  I do a nice "veggie meatballs" using crumbled tofu instead of the beef mince, topped with tomato sauce, and it comes out extremely satisfactorily Smiley

It's worth remembering that many cuisines from Europe have authentically meat-free dishes with origins in the Lenten Fast.  Here in Russia the Lenten Fast is taken very seriously... probably as many as 30% of the population will abstain from meat and dairy products entirely.  This creates an excellent situation for vegetarian atheists like myself...  every restaurant in town is offering a "penitential" special menu alongside its normal one...   so "their" fast is "my" veggie blowout season Smiley
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