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« Reply #1455 on: 20:35:49, 22-03-2008 » |
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It's ten hours before you may post a clue on the test thread, Evan, although you may do so here, of course. 415 - Mozart's Quintet K 593? Mr. Watson is of course perfectly right, it is Mozart's String Quintet number 5 in D major, K 593. (All our "no-o-os" above were just intended to indicate our amazement at the neglect of this piece of prime repertoire in favour of Michael Haydn!) Bravo, Tony! I should explain that although I have some Mozart quartets, I do not know the string quintets and felt the style was more Haydnesque!  Am amazed that No.432 is still 'alive' after over an hour!!!When the clip first appeared, I assumed it was a Haydn quartet. I have hardly any recordings of them (though I was tempted once when I saw a box of all them on Naxos in a closing-down sale in a shop) and of course I couldn't find it in my Barlow-Morgenstern Themes dictionary. So I gave up. With the quintet clue, I looked in the book and the K593 looked likely (and I knew it was in D) so I posted it before listening to check, hence the question mark. The recording I played came from my big red Brilliant Classics complete Mozart box, and a lusty performance it is too. I don't know how much other Mozart you have, but there are enough interesting recordings in that box to make it a worthwhile acquisition, I think. One a different note, I was annoyed not to spot the Nielsen 2 and the Dvorak 3 earlier. |
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« Reply #1456 on: 20:43:49, 22-03-2008 » |
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With the quintet clue, I looked in the book and the K593 looked likely (and I knew it was in D)
Now, I'm not able to tell what key something is in by ear and I'm rather jealous of those who have this musical training. I actually trawled in vain through the entire box of Haydn quartets (no great hardship - they are such joyous works and I used the 'frog' quartet in a snatch today) before Syd posted his clue which nudged us towards quintets instead. I'm still somewhat stunned that it wasn't Haydn! I do have some Mozart chamber music - especially that involving clarinet - but don't have the quintets; I do have a lovely box of the more famous string quartets on period instruments:  |
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« Reply #1457 on: 22:08:10, 22-03-2008 » |
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I do like these short snatches of famous works (as opposed to long snatches of infamous ones...  ) It sort of reminds me of a comedy sketch on telly I remember from when I was very young (5 or 6). I think I had been given a special treat to stay up, and my much older brother wanted to watch this. It may even have been Monty Python, but I cannot find it in their collected scripts. Anyway, it was in that sort of style. The sketch...? Well, as far as I can remember 3 contestants are behind desks of a University Challenge style, (except they are one man teams and there are three of them). A quizmaster asks them to identify classical works from ridiculously short 'snatches' (using today's parlance). [I guess the sketch was a take off of 'Name that Tune']. And the sketch ends with someone called Brian from Yorkshire getting less that a second's worth of orchestral chord and correctly identifying it as Beethoven's Choral Symphony. Of course the details are bound to be totally wrongly remembered as I only saw this once and was very young. Can anyone corroborate? Tommo |
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« Reply #1458 on: 00:04:32, 23-03-2008 » |
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IGI, I have a lovely recording of the string quintets, Mozart - Grumiaux Trio + Arpad Gerecz and Max Lesueur. It is a double cd from Philips and well worth investing in .. IMHO !
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« Reply #1459 on: 00:10:49, 23-03-2008 » |
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With the quintet clue, I looked in the book and the K593 looked likely (and I knew it was in D)
Now, I'm not able to tell what key something is in by ear Neither am I. But I have a selection of tuning forks and an electronic piano substitute within easy reach.  |
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« Reply #1460 on: 00:11:36, 23-03-2008 » |
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IGI, I have a lovely recording of the string quintets, Mozart - Grumiaux Trio + Arpad Gerecz and Max Lesueur. It is a double cd from Philips and well worth investing in .. IMHO ! Thanks for that, A - you just inspired me to check which recording(s) I have. I have a Sony 3CD box of the six string quintets with the Budapest Quartet and Milton Katims on 2nd viola, plus the clarinet quintet and a couple of other pieces (G minor piano quartet with Horszowski, etc.). I think I'll have a listen to K593 now. I also have a single disc with the Grumiaux Trio, which includes just one of the quintets, No. 3 (K516) - that must be the same performance as yours I think (+ Gérecz + Lesueur). |
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« Reply #1461 on: 00:13:22, 23-03-2008 » |
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And seeing that you're interested in period performance, you might also like this one  by the Hausmusik ensemble (led by Monica Huggett). I don't think it's currently available but it will probably resurface in some form before too long. |
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« Reply #1462 on: 00:18:27, 23-03-2008 » |
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IGI, I have a lovely recording of the string quintets, Mozart - Grumiaux Trio + Arpad Gerecz and Max Lesueur. It is a double cd from Philips and well worth investing in .. IMHO ! Thanks for that, A - you just inspired me to check which recording(s) I have. I have a Sony 3CD box of the six string quintets with the Budapest Quartet and Milton Katims on 2nd viola, plus the clarinet quintet and a couple of other pieces (G minor piano quartet with Horszowski, etc.). I think I'll have a listen to K593 now. I also have a single disc with the Grumiaux Trio, which includes just one of the quintets, No. 3 (K516) - that must be the same performance as yours I think (+ Gérecz + Lesueur). I should imagine it is Tinners, I certainly love the complete recording I have... do you like their perfomance? A |
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« Reply #1463 on: 00:19:45, 23-03-2008 » |
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Very interested in period performance, thanks Richard... I shall keep an eye out for it.
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« Reply #1464 on: 00:27:43, 23-03-2008 » |
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The slow movement of K516 is I think my favourite moment in Mozart chamber music. I find myself much more drawn to his quintets than his quartets. That goes for Brahms too, his G major quintet is one of the few works of his I really like.
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« Reply #1465 on: 00:31:54, 23-03-2008 » |
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IGI, I have a lovely recording of the string quintets, Mozart - Grumiaux Trio + Arpad Gerecz and Max Lesueur. It is a double cd from Philips and well worth investing in .. IMHO !
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Those recordings were included in the Philips Complete Mozart set. I am sure they are better than the one I mentioned above, from what I remember of them, but the one I heard today was direct and vigorous, if you like your Mozart that way. But are all six of them on two CDs. I notice my set is over three and the total time is a few seconds short of 170 minutes. |
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« Reply #1466 on: 00:34:22, 23-03-2008 » |
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Thanks, A and Richard for those recommendations. I have both Grumiaux and Huggett in recordings of the violin concertos, so will investigate both re the quintets. I also see that L'Archibudelli have recorded some, and I enjoy their discs. Tony, I see the Grumiaux is on a Philips Trio:  Tommo, I promise to put further short snatches in my next batch!!  |
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« Reply #1467 on: 00:47:28, 23-03-2008 » |
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I am very pleased with the recording that I have, though there don't seem to be any instruments of the punctuational kind on it:  Quatuor Talich with the String quintets and the Clarinet quintet. The clarinetist is not credited on the cover, unfortunately.  It's Bohuslav Zahradnik (1947-1987), who looked like this:  |
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« Reply #1468 on: 09:06:43, 23-03-2008 » |
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IGI, I have a lovely recording of the string quintets, Mozart - Grumiaux Trio + Arpad Gerecz and Max Lesueur. It is a double cd from Philips and well worth investing in .. IMHO !
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Those recordings were included in the Philips Complete Mozart set. I am sure they are better than the one I mentioned above, from what I remember of them, but the one I heard today was direct and vigorous, if you like your Mozart that way. But are all six of them on two CDs. I notice my set is over three and the total time is a few seconds short of 170 minutes. Tony, it is 3 cds and is the one that IGI has shown the cover of.. the total playing time is 210 minutes but it does include the Divertimento in Eb K563. A EDIT: I just checked back and see that I said it was a double cd... sorry !!! - it was a bit late, it is a 3 cd set as I said more recently! |
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