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Now for the last in the current trio, Puzzle 374, a rather longer clip, this time. Cage Sonatas and Interludes? You're at it again, aren't you, Ollie. Just after the 20 point. No, that is not a prepared piano, nor a sonata or interlude, and neither is it by Cage. It's Harry Partch and I think it's And on the Seventh Day Petals Fell in Petaluma but if it's Windsong I will howl and beat my breast. It is not And on the Seventh Day Petals Fell in Petaluma.  Fine. Is it Windsong? [beats breast wailing] It is indeed Windsong. Fancy that Sudden chap mistaking that ensemble for a prepared piano. What is the world coming to? |
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Here is Puzzle 373. Will anybody who participated in this, or any other performance of the work, in this, or an earlier version, please have the good grace to refrain from attempting a solution to the puzzle? Puzzle 373 The Great Learning Paragraphs 2 and 7 (1971; re-released 2002) (Deutsche Grammophon/Universal Classics 471 572).  Good heavens no. That was just excerpts from the published edition. This is something quite different in structure and ethos. I haven't performed in any version of Paragraph 2, but I feel I'm being a little bit sneaky because I have performed Paragraphs 1, 5, 6 and 7. I will suck lemons later as penance (mmmmmm lemons nom nom nom). Is this the Maoist revision of Paragraph 2 of The Great Learning that the Scratch Orchestra performed in 1972? |
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Here is Puzzle 373. Will anybody who participated in this, or any other performance of the work, in this, or an earlier version, please have the good grace to refrain from attempting a solution to the puzzle? Puzzle 373 The Great Learning Paragraphs 2 and 7 (1971; re-released 2002) (Deutsche Grammophon/Universal Classics 471 572). Good heavens no. That was just excerpts from the published edition. This is something quite different in structure and ethos. I haven't performed in any version of Paragraph 2, but I feel I'm being a little bit sneaky because I have performed Paragraphs 1, 5, 6 and 7. I will suck lemons later as penance (mmmmmm lemons nom nom nom). Is this the Maoist revision of Paragraph 2 of The Great Learning that the Scratch Orchestra performed in 1972? Quite right, hh. In fact, the very end of the Proms performance. Not only was a different translation (by Cardew, rather than Pound) used, but there were specifically four drummers, who, for the final rhythm, played the one which Cardew nicknamed Brabazon, rather than one they each chose for themselves, and it was played in strict canon. Also in complete contrast to the original score and ethos, they ended together, with all but one playing an incomplete cycle of Brabazon at the end. |
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Having succeeded in identifying a snatch of Foss I have decided to celebrate by presenting some of my own. Apologies for doing so at such a late hour: the whole process took me slightly longer than I anticipated. The first one is I think very easy, the second and third perhaps less so: Puzzle 378Puzzle 379Puzzle 380Not having played this game for some time I've slightly lost track of the rules for setting and scoring. I think I'm right in gathering that a Member is permitted three open snatches at any given time, but if someone could enlighten me (over in the Discussion thread) on the rules for when clues can and indeed whether there is a point at which clues must be given, I would be most grateful. |
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Mr. Now's puzzle 378 (which rather confusingly displays "377" on the player) is the first - in E minor - of the four curious Duetti incorporated into Bach's Clavierübung Part III. Its BWV number is 802. We know it well having transcribed it for MIDI in 1985.
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Mr. Now's puzzle 378 (which rather confusingly displays "377" on the player) Ah, thank you for that information! I confess that I was aware that might happen - I had initially and mistakenly named the file "puzzle 377" on my computer but then corrected myself in time to name it "puzzle 378" on Sendspace. I let the error stand in the hope of thereby discovering what would happen if I in future left the files on my computer named with the titles of the pieces in question. Good to know that I'd better not do so! Mr Grew is of course entirely correct in his identification of the snatch. I'm impressed also to learn that he was active in the "MIDI game" as early as 1985, when I myself was but 5 or 6 years old, and I trust that his performance of the diurnal activity of transcription was not adversely affected by the "continental quilt disaster" that beset the English nation nineteen years earlier. Members caring to listen to the snatch even though they are too late to gain points thereby may note that the performance I have chosen sounds not unlike a MIDI transcription itself, and may be surprised to learn that its perpetrator is none other than Dame Gillian Weir, at the console of the Phelps organ of St Luke's Episcopal Church in Fort Collins, Colorado. Dame Gillian writes in the CD booklet that: "The two organs used here [the disc features two American organs built by Lawrence Phelps] ... are instruments that are there to serve the music, while still reaching out to charm the listener with liquid mutations and characterful reeds and to excite him with a confident authority." We cannot help feeling that she has underestimated the strangeness of their effect. |
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« Reply #2332 on: 03:03:28, 17-03-2008 » |
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Some clues for 355 and 356... 355 is the work of a composer whose location and time placed him under the influence of Handel, but whose forward-looking ambition caused him to write music in more 'Classical' genres. 356 is the work of an extremely prolific composer who was also a friend of J. S. Bach. Baz Some more clues for 355 and 356... The composer of 355 was a chorister at St. Paul's Cathedral and later became Organist of the Chapel Royal (a post from which he had to retire prematurely because of deafness). No 356 is a piece that imitates (as is obvious) the sound of the hurdy-gurdy, and is one movement of a Suite. Baz |
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Gosh! too much information now.
355: William Beuys Boyce, Symphony no. 1 in B-flat Major, first movement.
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Gosh! too much information now.
355: William Beuys Boyce, Symphony no. 1 in B-flat Major, first movement.
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Puzzle 381 -- the soloist as well as the composer, please! Puzzle 382 -- as compensation, here you don't have to give the title. Just the composer will be difficult enough. Puzzle 383 -- and for this one, composer and work as usual. P.S. I hereby reboyce rejoice!!
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Puzzle 381 -- the soloist as well as the composer, please! Puzzle 382 -- as compensation, here you don't have to give the title. Just the composer will be difficult enough. Puzzle 383 -- and for this one, composer and work as usual. P.S. I hereby reboyce rejoice!! 382 - my initial instinct is English, but it could also be French since it seems to be a Gavotte with variations (which I think is not that common in England). So I'll try this for the composer... RAMEAU (since I know of at least one Gavotte and Variations by him). |
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RAMEAU (since I know of at least one Gavotte and Variations by him).
This is a fine guess, but remember the answer is not an easy one, so it won't be Rameau. The composer is none too famous, but noteworthy for hijacking another person's name for marketing purposes. Also, since you say Gavotte and Variations, I will say it's no Variations but rather something in the singular, as if that was not a contradictio in adjecto. And it's no Gavotte but something more elemental. |
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Puzzle 380: Silver Ladders by Joan Tower?
Completely wild guess based on the goad from the other thread that I for some reason ought to know this stuff. I have never heard the piece but heard about it.
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