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« Reply #75 on: 10:11:45, 29-04-2008 » |
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But aren't we technically speaking just guessing anyway? Doesn't God hand out the various Cabinet portfolios and junior posts and we have to guess or attempt to 'discern' who is responsible for what (or even if they are actually saints)?
So if, for example, we ask St George to intercede on behalf of the England darts team (as of course I often do) and we've got it wrong he passes it to St Alban with 'Yours, I believe. Please deal.' scribbled in the top right hand margin. Or maybe I being unduly influenced by the Whitehall model here?
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« Reply #76 on: 10:22:32, 29-04-2008 » |
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Presumably, since there are now more Christian countries than there were, say, five centuries ago, He must have needed some cabinet reshuffles and some new blood, GG. (New blood: would that be where the martyrs come in?)
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« Reply #77 on: 10:45:34, 29-04-2008 » |
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if, for example, we ask St George to intercede on behalf of the England darts team (as of course I often do) and we've got it wrong he passes it to St Alban with 'Yours, I believe. Please deal.' scribbled in the top right hand margin. ...who then passes it on to Saint Jude Thaddaeus.  I passed through St Severin's in Paris a little while back and was struck by the number of plaques (in all the little chapels, not apparently saint-specific) with the equivalent of 'Thanks for exam success' on them. |
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« Reply #78 on: 10:52:18, 29-04-2008 » |
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Presumably, since there are now more Christian countries than there were, say, five centuries ago, He must have needed some cabinet reshuffles and some new blood, GG. (New blood: would that be where the martyrs come in?)
However, there has been a bit of downsizing too, and I believe some of the existing saints might now be "rationalised"? Multitasking might be needed, especially for those currently responsible for sawyers, reeves, dung-fermours, ostlers, and other activities in something of a lull? |
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« Reply #79 on: 10:56:17, 29-04-2008 » |
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I passed through St Severin's in Paris a little while back and was struck by the number of plaques (in all the little chapels, not apparently saint-specific) with the equivalent of 'Thanks for exam success' on them.
Blimey, and I always told my children that it was doing enough work that did it. Never told them the saints would help. I feel a worse parent than ever. |
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« Reply #80 on: 12:23:47, 29-04-2008 » |
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In Siena cathedral I was struck by the number of motorcycle helmets hung up in the votive chapel, it wasn't clear if they were in memoriam, or in thanks for a near miss on the Vespa.
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« Reply #81 on: 12:26:46, 29-04-2008 » |
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In Siena cathedral I was struck by the number of motorcycle helmets hung up in the votive chapel, it wasn't clear if they were in memoriam, or in thanks for a near miss on the Vespa.
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« Reply #82 on: 10:36:48, 30-04-2008 » |
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In Siena cathedral I was struck by the number of motorcycle helmets hung up in the votive chapel, it wasn't clear if they were in memoriam, or in thanks for a near miss on the Vespa.
I'd be distinctly surprised to see an Italian on a Vespa actually bothering with a motorcycle helmet. Quite. |
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« Reply #83 on: 22:19:11, 02-05-2008 » |
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Blimey, and I always told my children that it was doing enough work that did it.
Yes, but it may still feel right to give thanks that you have had the grace to do enough work and have the appropriate talent to pass in any case. I got my upper second at university after a parish pilgrimage to Our Lady of Walsingham, and I passed my guiding examination after a visit to Our Lady of Willesden, NW10  Also survived a major operation ten years ago after visiting Willesden. I took a bunch of flowers after I survived. I don't really understand intercessory prayer (ie asking God for things) but I am absolutely convinced of the rightness of giving thanks. That is why the chief Christian service is called a Thanksgiving in any case (ie the Eucharist.) |
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« Reply #84 on: 23:06:58, 02-05-2008 » |
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We do this at church anyway. But sometimes with these intercessionary prayers, it really happens!! I think to myself hmmm, coincedence, or what???
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« Reply #85 on: 01:12:44, 12-06-2008 » |
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"Culture Minister" Margaret Hodge has admitted that the Govt has spent exactly £230 promoting St George's day - a cumulative figure covering the past five years. In some of these years, nothing at all was spent. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080611/tpl-lifestyle-britain-culture-politics-o-5b839a9.html |
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« Reply #86 on: 14:57:01, 12-06-2008 » |
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Indeed...and yahoo spent 0.001 percent of that budget on the image illustrating this!
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« Reply #87 on: 15:01:18, 12-06-2008 » |
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I notice that Yahoo sourced this piece from Agence France Presse, which may account for the mocking (I was going to say Sarky) tone of the last three paragraphs: Saint George's Day, which falls on April 23, is an annual non-event in England.
It is generally punctuated by breweries trying to cash in and promote a party atmosphere; left-wingers saying that patriotism should be reclaimed from the racists; a variety of English eccentrics; and everyday folk wondering why the English just don't seem to bother.
The fact that Saint George's Day is not a public holiday only adds to the general lack of interest
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« Reply #88 on: 15:26:01, 12-06-2008 » |
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"Culture Minister" Margaret Hodge has admitted that the Govt has spent exactly £230 promoting St George's day - a cumulative figure covering the past five years. In some of these years, nothing at all was spent. That's a bit wasteful. Our local school could have bought 20 textbooks with that money. |
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« Reply #89 on: 18:05:59, 12-06-2008 » |
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Being in the publishing business myself, in a small way...  I can offer textbooks at half that price (when we don't have any in stock). |
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