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Another bit of fun! Which composers/ musicians pass the Pint Test, and which do not? The Pint Test is simply described: could you sit in a pub talking and drinking with this person for a couple of hours without being a) bored out of your skull b) enraged to the point of contemplating homicide c) sickened in some as yet undefined way? My opener – Haydn: PASS Wagner: FAIL (on count b, and possibly c as well. Ooh, and a, come to think of it) Berio: PASS (well, that’s cheating, cos I’ve actually done it   ) Ferneyhough: FAIL (a) |
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« Reply #1 on: 22:26:35, 05-10-2008 » |
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One pint in a couple of hours?  They must love you in your local, martle!
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« Reply #2 on: 02:11:27, 06-10-2008 » |
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Giles Farnaby: PASS, I would love to discuss cabinet-making with someone like Farnaby as well as his music, and the times in which he lived.
Dr.John Bull: PASS, by all accounts he was a good sort to pass an hour with, pint optional.
Henry Purcell: PASS, if I could stand his predilection for rugby songs, perhaps.
W.A.Mozart: FAIL, nice enough company but only spends about ten minutes at the table talking before wandering off to the billiards table
Ira D.Sankey: FAIL, two hours and a pint isn't enough to distract anybody from a determined evangelist
Erik Satie: FAIL, simply because we were supposed to meet in the pub and when I got there, there was just a table with two pints and a short note in green ink: "ceci n'est pas un pint".
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« Reply #3 on: 11:21:00, 06-10-2008 » |
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Beethoven: FAIL he would slurp too loudly, and spill beer down his tunic front. Ugh.
Bach: PASS I could talk to him through 8 pints at least.
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« Reply #4 on: 11:35:56, 06-10-2008 » |
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Bach: FAIL, after the second hour of the photographs of all his children and how they are doing at the Hochschule, my eyes glazed over...
Bizet: PASS, "I can tell you that if you suppressed crime, fanaticism, evil, or the supernatural, there wouldn't be enough left about which you could write a single note".
Leopold Mozart: FAIL, yes, yes, your bloody son, he's a blinkin' marvel, isn't he? I hear there have been forest fires in Portugal?
Scriabin: FAIL, "and on the eighth day of this marvellous composition the earth comes to an end? I suppose the people with the catering franchise won't be too happy about that."
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« Reply #5 on: 11:56:47, 06-10-2008 » |
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Ferneyhough: FAIL (a)
I think I would have to beg to differ... but then I have seen said person playing the didjeridu at a new year party. Then again, perhaps this thread should be restricted to those composers/musicians to whom one actually hasn't so to speak administered the Pint Test. Much as I love the music of Mahler, I think he would probably FAIL on account of (a) caused by an inability to talk about anything but himself, although this of course is a common trait among composers. (On the other hand Berlioz would probably PASS by the same token.) Well, I think I've said enough about myself... what do you think of me?  |
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« Reply #6 on: 12:28:58, 06-10-2008 » |
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I heard that Sibelius liked to drink a lot.
Is it true?
What about Elgar? Did he like to have beer or anything else?
Musorgsky had big problems with drink. This is why he died.
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« Reply #7 on: 22:46:14, 07-10-2008 » |
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Come on you lot! Whose round is it?
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« Reply #8 on: 02:10:37, 08-10-2008 » |
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I think I would have to beg to differ... but then I have seen said person playing the didjeridu at a new year party. Had I been in your situation, RB, the word that would have sprung to mind is "Didjeridon't." |
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« Reply #9 on: 09:30:01, 08-10-2008 » |
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Ferneyhough: FAIL (a) I must protest! I have administered the pint test to Brian on a number of occasions, admittedly none of them in the very recent past, and he has passed with flying colours. (The pints have included Guinness, sake and slightly boring German pilsener.) |
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« Reply #10 on: 09:35:26, 08-10-2008 » |
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I don't think Rossini and I would enjoy a pint, but a glass of prosecco or a strong coffee or three in an Parisian or Italian bar sounds an amusing way to pass the time, as long as he was not is one of his depressive moods.
I would be happy to have a beer with Ralph Vaughan Williams.
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« Reply #11 on: 09:38:42, 08-10-2008 » |
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Said pub of course has no music in which case
Ives: PASS - but did he drink alcohol?
and if there was a bar billiard table
Constant Lambert: PASS - sounds unlikely doesn't it? But I did once experience a surprisingly enjoyable plane journey seated next to his son Kit (who was most generous with his classy cognac).
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« Reply #12 on: 09:40:53, 08-10-2008 » |
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Having spent a couple of hours or so over a pint or two with at least five composers (four of them from these boards) over the past nine months or so, I'd very gladly spend more time with any of them in a similar situation.
I'm sure Tippett would have been very engaging company, judging by his essays and radio talks: an educated and inquiring mind with a wide frame of reference, I'm sure that he could have provided hours of stimulating and interesting conversation. Definitely a Pass.
Stravinsky (with the right companions) would have been fascinating, too. Another Pass, though swap the pint for a bottle of vodka for best results.
I'm not sure that Britten would have been as happy in similar surroundings: perhaps he'd have been more at home at a family picnic, but in a pub over a pint I suspect that he might have clammed up somewhat, and have been rather quiet. Possibly a Fail in a pub, but a Pass elsewhere.
Having recently spent a couple of hours over a pint or three with a very musical young lady who hails originally from Orkney and who was formerly very involved in the choral scene there, I now have the distinct impression that time spent anywhere with PMD might not be quite as pleasant an experience. Probably a Fail.
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« Reply #13 on: 09:48:08, 08-10-2008 » |
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Ferneyhough: FAIL (a) I must protest! Ok, ok. I withdraw BF's failure certificate. I must just have caught him on an off day, the one time I was in his vicinity.  Auto - Lamberts senior and junior were both hopeles alcoholics, so that could play both ways... Constant was one of the mainstays of the Fitzrovia set (along with other party people like Rawsthorne) so at least we know he liked pub ambience. |
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« Reply #14 on: 09:54:47, 08-10-2008 » |
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I now have the distinct impression that time spent anywhere with PMD might not be quite as pleasant an experience. Probably a Fail.
On the other hand, I used to have a bit to do with PMD about 25 years ago when I worked as his copyist for a while, and I found him friendly and interesting company. Of course that was then. While I've always enjoyed convivial relations with Brian F, I can quite understand others not feeling the same. |
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