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A small town or village in the UK would not be an enticing prospect - if the culture in the metropolis hasn't really developed much since the 19th century, then in the towns/villages it may still be stuck in the 16th or 17th.
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« Reply #2221 on: 10:18:11, 29-06-2007 » |
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A small town or village in the UK would not be an enticing prospect - if the culture in the metropolis hasn't really developed much since the 19th century, then in the towns/villages it may still be stuck in the 16th or 17th.
Please elaborate! Why do you think the culture in the metropolis hasn't changed much from the 19th century? Because the fundamental structure and divisions of the society have changed only in details, not in their nature (and the public services remain in 19th century conditions). Culture and class still go hand in hand, immigrants are still only allowed a tokenistic role [contd. p. 94] |
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #2222 on: 10:28:35, 29-06-2007 » |
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Thanks, Ian. I was aware when I asked you that question that I was possibly inviting you to write a book.
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« Reply #2223 on: 10:30:48, 29-06-2007 » |
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Thanks, Ian. I was aware when I asked you that question that I was possibly inviting you to write a book.
Not the day for that (or at least not that book) - more interested in unashamed smoking for now. But there's always.....  |
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« Reply #2224 on: 10:35:39, 29-06-2007 » |
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Agreed, Ian. Let's stay focussed here. Grump.  |
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« Reply #2225 on: 10:42:16, 29-06-2007 » |
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If I lived in one I'd have to become the Local Eccentric.
Oh yes! Like that wonderful poem about old age (whose title escapes me) you know - "wearing purple and red" and "learning to spit!"  That would definitely be me as well. |
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« Reply #2226 on: 10:48:27, 29-06-2007 » |
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Agreed, Ian. Let's stay focussed here.
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« Reply #2227 on: 10:52:44, 29-06-2007 » |
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The thought of knowing everyone in a place (and worse, everyone knowing me) horrifies me. . . . If I lived in one I'd have to become the Local Eccentric. On the other hand, Madam, we find strangely attractive the idea of life in a closed community or institution, always provided that all members thereof be devoted to the same shared ends. A sort of abbey for ęsthetes perhaps. That we have never actually indulged that way we really regard as one of our missed opportunities. But we wonder where we would all be now had it not been for the Pythagorean community. It started we are told with music, which holds a special power over soul, and permeates the Cosmos. Since the musical scale is numerical, they said, the whole world then must be somehow made up out of it: even, odd, and so on. |
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« Reply #2228 on: 11:01:54, 29-06-2007 » |
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« Reply #2230 on: 11:32:48, 29-06-2007 » |
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« Reply #2231 on: 11:39:36, 29-06-2007 » |
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Oh yes! Like that wonderful poem about old age (whose title escapes me) you know - "wearing purple and red" and "learning to spit!" That would definitely be me as well. It's Jenny Joseph's Warning, I think. When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter.
I shall sit down on the pavement when I'm tired
And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
And run my stick along the public railings
And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
And pick the flowers in other people's gardens
And learn to spit.
You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat
And eat three pounds of sausages at a go
Or only bread and pickle for a week
And hoard pens and pencils and beermats and things in boxes.
But now we must have clothes that keep us dry
And pay our rent and not swear in the street
And set a good example for the children
We must have friends to dinner and read the papers.
But maybe I ought to practise a little now?
So people who know me are not too shocked and surprised
When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple. Living in a small community can be nice. I grew up in a place where I think my mum knew most of the people who lived in her part of the village (if you can call it a village - now it's been completely swallowed up by Woking  ) and it was nice. I can live without cultural life on my doorstep, just as long as it's reachable by a short car journey, or on the train. I think that escape routes are incredibly important! If communities like that turn bad, it's unbearable. They have to be ready to accept incomers otherwise they will become like those creatures that adapt so much to a particular environment that any change will kill them. |
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If I lived in one I'd have to become the Local Eccentric.
Oh yes! Like that wonderful poem about old age (whose title escapes me) you know - "wearing purple and red" and "learning to spit!" That would definitely be me as well. The worrying thing here is Milly that I HAVE got there... I bang sticks down railings, I wear purple, I hoard pencils in boxes, wear terrible shirts... and fat?... well we don't go there!! I haven't , as yet, learnt to spit... but no doubt that will come soon !!! A |
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« Reply #2233 on: 12:00:24, 29-06-2007 » |
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If I lived in one I'd have to become the Local Eccentric.
Oh yes! Like that wonderful poem about old age (whose title escapes me) you know - "wearing purple and red" and "learning to spit!" That would definitely be me as well. The worrying thing here is Milly that I HAVE got there... I bang sticks down railings, I wear purple, I hoard pencils in boxes, wear terrible shirts... and fat?... well we don't go there!! I haven't , as yet, learnt to spit... but no doubt that will come soon !!! A A, funnily enough the mention of pencils made me think of you!  Still, I can`t talk, I`ve been wearing purple for y-e-a-r-s darlink. Still can`t spit though |
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« Reply #2234 on: 12:15:03, 29-06-2007 » |
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Oh yes! Like that wonderful poem about old age (whose title escapes me) you know - "wearing purple and red" and "learning to spit!" That would definitely be me as well. It's Jenny Joseph's Warning, I think. Yes! That's it. Really great poem thank you very much. |
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