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Milly Jones
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« Reply #7920 on: 17:46:08, 07-10-2008 »

At least you were allowed to stay with him, which wasn't always the case, even with very young children (I have personal experience of this). Very annoying to have to wait, though, especially with no food or drink. I hope it all goes well.

I've never had a problem staying in hospital with my own children in the past, sometimes overnight.  We've always been in a private scheme and they were always much more accommodating if you were paying. 

However, this is NHS and nobody seemed to mind.  I just asked if I could stay with him and they agreed to it.  When my husband was ill, I camped next to his bed on a camp bed for the 5 1/2 weeks he was in hospital before they let him home.  Some of that in the Christie, some in the Alexandra at Cheadle.  He panicked and became very depressed if I left him even for a short time, and they were very good about it.  I think they're much more relaxed about it these days.  Thank goodness there's been a shift in consciousness in that regard.  They're much cleaner too.  I've never seen so much hand-washing in my life!  Grin
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« Reply #7921 on: 17:47:34, 07-10-2008 »

Thanks so much everyone for your good wishes. I've been relaying them to him and he's very touched that people who don't know him are wishing him well.
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« Reply #7922 on: 17:59:08, 07-10-2008 »

I'm a bit late here Milly, as myself and MrsBBM are on holiday atm. We have to go to the Reception area to plug into their broadband system! I hope your son is going to be well soon!
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« Reply #7923 on: 18:02:46, 07-10-2008 »

Thanks.  At last the call!   They've just rung to say "he's fine" after the op and ready to come home.  The surgeon told me earlier today that the biopsy results will take a few days but they will contact me as soon as possible.  Off to get him now. 
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« Reply #7924 on: 18:08:35, 07-10-2008 »

Hope it will all turn out ok, Milly. Glad the op is over.
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« Reply #7925 on: 18:55:13, 07-10-2008 »

Glad the op's over, Miily.

At least you were allowed to stay with him, which wasn't always the case, even with very young children (I have personal experience of this). Very annoying to have to wait, though, especially with no food or drink. I hope it all goes well.

I've never had a problem staying in hospital with my own children in the past, sometimes overnight.  We've always been in a private scheme and they were always much more accommodating if you were paying. 

However, this is NHS and nobody seemed to mind. 

I think they're much more relaxed about it these days.  Thank goodness there's been a shift in consciousness in that regard. 
Sorry I've edited you a bit.

I think I've said all this here before, and I am talking about a long time ago, over 30 years, I suppose, but it was an unforgettable thing. When my elder son was 18 months old, he had to have an operation for an inguinal hernia. I was expected to leave him, and I refused to. I had to fight to stay, and then was treated with scorn by the ward sister, who said I was spoiling him. If wanting to stay with a crying, frightened 18 month old is spoiling, I obviously don't understand the word! She had to give in, but I well remember her comment, "I'm glad I'm not educated!" Oh dear.

Only about five years after that, my younger son was in hospital, and the difference by then was amazing. I could stay as long as I wanted, and it was positively encouraged. The shift in attitudes was the result of lobbying by people like me, by way of an organisation called, I think, the National Association for the Welfare of Children in Hospital.

As for my own memories of being in hospital in the early days of the NHS, when I was nine - the less said the better, though I think I've probably described it somewhere here already.

We  may complain about modern life, but there have been huge improvements in many ways.

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« Reply #7926 on: 19:05:38, 07-10-2008 »

You're right, Mary. We may all have plenty to moan about but, generally, health care and the consideration shown now towards a patient's family and friends is a million miles away from the days of Sister ringing the Bell and glaring at everyone to go.

Milly, glad the op went well and you can have him back Chez Milly soon. A relief for both of you.
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« Reply #7927 on: 14:33:21, 08-10-2008 »

A new rant for the day:

Why is my office so ridiculously overheated? I'm here in shirtsleeves, with the window open, it's still oppressively stuffy and there's bugger all I can do about it. It's OCTOBER, it's OK for the ambient temperature to be little cooler. Don't we have a planet to save or something?

Grrr (not Brrr).
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« Reply #7928 on: 14:43:19, 08-10-2008 »

A new rant for the day:

Why is my office so ridiculously overheated? I'm here in shirtsleeves, with the window open, it's still oppressively stuffy and there's bugger all I can do about it. It's OCTOBER, it's OK for the ambient temperature to be little cooler. Don't we have a planet to save or something?

Grrr (not Brrr).
Are you working in the same office as me?  Hang on, there's a guy over there I don't recognise...

The annoying thing is that I was off sick yesterday (some nasty vomiting virus) and now I don't know whether it's just me or that it's just sweltering in here.  Angry
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« Reply #7929 on: 18:36:07, 08-10-2008 »

Are you working in the same office as me?  Hang on, there's a guy over there I don't recognise...
Does he look up if you call "Tombeau"?
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« Reply #7930 on: 23:06:13, 08-10-2008 »

A Traveller's Tip from my morning in Venice (I'm now in Dresden).

If your electricity goes off in the middle of the night, do not assume that you will be able to get through the following morning without electric lighting so it doesn't matter. Electric lighting may well be purely optional. Electric water-heating is not. At least not for me.

Should you find yourself in the position of having to ablute with recourse solely to water which appears to have been expressly chilled for the purpose (assuming you are not in any case accustomed to doing so in which case this post will sound to you as the ravings of an utter wuss), commence by wetting a towel and allowing that to warm up a little towards room temperature before moistening the skin with it. Soap or similar may then be administered.

Rinsing is the tricky bit. The limbs are OK as they can be done one at a time minimising the trauma to the rest of the body. At some point, however, the torso must be rinsed. This does require the chilled water to be poured over the body. This may give rise to occasional screams and involuntary panting. This is quite normal and not in itself life-threatening.

But it didn't half get my morning off to a crepey start.  Cry
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« Reply #7931 on: 23:11:38, 08-10-2008 »

Some members may recall that after my landlord went home to Italy without paying the gas bills (or doing anything about the ones he hadn't been paying for quite some time ...) I had no gas for precisely 4 weeks in the summer.

Unlike the water in Ollie's Venetian hotel, the water in this flat is heated not by electricity but by gas.

So I am well familiar with the experience commonly known as the 'cold shower', and can confirm that much of what Ollie says is true (rinsing of limbs, trauma, torso, screams ...). I didn't know about the wet towel trick though. I shall bear this in mind for future occasions.
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« Reply #7932 on: 23:17:54, 08-10-2008 »

I have previously been the occupant of dwellings where for a time exceeding a single morning no heated water was available. On those occasions, though, a relatively small amount of water was boiled and mixed in an appropriate receptacle (the bath indeed, when time allowed) with the chilled water the taps provided. The results were admittedly not altogether unendurable.
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« Reply #7933 on: 23:32:33, 08-10-2008 »

Memo to Ollie Oz and others:

Baby-wipes..... (Useful thing to have by you for emergency ablutions when only freezing - or indeed, no - water is otherwise available. A couple of sachets can be secreted in a case or overnight bag, and replacements bought almost anywhere. As used by Ron in the Andes, the Cederberg, the Highlands, etc.)
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« Reply #7934 on: 09:41:32, 09-10-2008 »

...and at Gatwick airport?  Wink
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