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« on: 17:37:21, 02-03-2007 »

Ho

There were suggestions in tOP, (a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away - actually that's not a bad analogy for what's going on - oh! hang on! we've already had that) that rather than cluttering up the waffle thread with culinary inanity, I might find somewhere else to detail my kitchen exploits and to encourage others to do the same.

This seems as good a time as any, so I'd like to debut with tonight's dinner, which is called 'I was going to buy some lovely fresh fish to eat tonight but I need to sort out my overdraft limit first' or 'What I had in my cupboards'.

You will need:
An onion
A clove of garlic
A chilli (I used a preserved one)
A tin of tomatoes
A tin of anchovies
A few capers from a jar
Some lentils (didn't measure them I'm afraid - about 30g?)
Pasta (somewhere between 50 and 75g)
Oil, salt, pepper, parmesan

Crush the garlic and chuck it into a pan with some oil.
Heat it until it starts to sizzle.
Add the onion (chopped) and season.
When the onion is soft, add the chilli (chopped) and stir for a little while (until you get bored).
Throw in the tin of tomatoes. If they are chopped, leave them as they are, but if they aren't, mash them up with your stirring thingy. Lumps are good but not that big.
Chop up the anchovies and add half of them.
Add the lentils and stir well.
Leave to simmer for about 40 minutes.
But you'll also need to cook the pasta, so after 15 minutes or so, you'll need to put the water on for the pasta.
I'm using penne which will take around 12 minutes to cook according to the packet.
You're aiming to have some cooked pasta about the same time as you've finished cooking the sauce.
Add the remaining anchovy-bits and the capers.
Grate in some parmesan and season again if necessary.
Mix in the pasta and serve.

Serves 1.
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« Reply #1 on: 18:00:14, 02-03-2007 »

Excellent stuff, HarmonyHarmony, and with the omission of the anchovies all entirely suitable for the Lenten Fast, too :-)   It seems like the result would emerge as a sort of Egyptian koshery?   The combination of pulses and pasta makes a healthy slow-burning complete protein that's ideal winter sustainance :-)
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« Reply #2 on: 18:06:07, 02-03-2007 »

with the omission of the anchovies all entirely suitable for the Lenten Fast, too
I've never done a proper Lenten fast (I did, just for the hell of it, go completely vegetarian for Lent one year), but isn't fish permitted on a Friday (or beaver if you're in South America)?
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« Reply #3 on: 18:37:30, 02-03-2007 »

The combination of pulses and pasta makes a healthy slow-burning complete protein that's ideal winter sustainance :-)
It was very nice and I suspect that it's set me up nicely for an hour and a half of singing Ockeghem.
Got some left over as well, which will do nicely for lunch on Sunday.
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« Reply #4 on: 18:41:47, 02-03-2007 »

I think it depends which franchise of Christianity you've bought into  Smiley   The Russian Orthodox church insists on a totally vegan and alcohol-free diet for the entire 40 days and nights.  I am not a believer myself, but living in the close proximity of those who are (around 30% of Russians will observe the Fast) means that the strictures are quite firmly memorised Wink

Ockeghem - well, there is lots of penitential possibility there ;-)

I am not really sure of the ecclesiastical benefits of undertaking the Fast "for the hell of it" Wink Wink
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« Reply #5 on: 23:11:20, 02-03-2007 »

Well I'm an Anglican so the approach to fasting is - whatever you want!
I was thinking more about the Catholic approach.
The Ockeghem is the Missa Ecce Ancilla Domine and it doesn't seem terribly penitentiary (though our assistant director was moaning that since it was such a boring piece, this was his Lent penance! Our director (also my supervisor), Fabrice Fitch loves the piece but was away tonight - hence the negative comments - our assistant director prefers the Ashewell mass that he's chosen).
Going without meat or fish for 40 days (actually it was 46 because I also observed the fast on Sundays) was a good experience. Lent seemed the perfect excuse to make the experiment but it had more to do with my personal growth (mental not physical) than with any religious observance.
I reduced my alcohol intake to two units a day three years ago (partly down to necessity - but also because I wanted to prove that I could and it was very difficult) and completely cut out alcohol two years ago (because I could, which is more than could be said for the year before).
This year, I thought that I'd try to give some time to listen to some music and follow it in score. I've got a pile of scores sitting in my bedroom just waiting. Lent's the perfect excuse (again)!

Tomorrow's dinner is going to be some defrosted fish soup - it's the last of that Brill that dedicated hh-watchers may remember - with some noodles (and possibly some shredded greens if I can source some during the day) and a bit of soy sauce. Not much that can go wrong with that...
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« Reply #6 on: 23:18:45, 02-03-2007 »

In the interval I nipped across the road to the 24-hr supermarket (I prefer to shop at 2am when it's quiet in there) and they had technicians putting up signs for a huge in-store promotion of Fast-friendly milk substitute.  They were even attaching pseudo numberplates to the shopping trolleys which read "I'm skipping the milk for Lent!"...

cheers
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(a veggie for 24 years)
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« Reply #7 on: 23:34:06, 02-03-2007 »

You can't imagine that happening in the UK, can you?

In Newcastle last Friday, we had about 30 minutes before the start of the concert to get some food.
I get really grumpy when I haven't eaten, so it's best to feed me before I bite your head off.
I ended up getting a meal from KFC, which was one of the only places open that could cater for a 30 minute feed, and getting tomato ketchup on my shirt...

As a contrast, in January when travelling back from the South, I was stuck in York station for an hour and found that the little newsagents did wonderful (and cheap) falafel in a pitta. I bought two of them and devoured them greedily on the platform.

I suppose I'm just free associating here, but I suppose I'm lurching towards the suggestion that in the UK, it seems largely hit or miss whether you can get tasty vegetarian food when you're out (and desperate!) let alone any food that caters to any idea of religious observance.

Oh dear. Talking about food again.
I'm hungry...
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« Reply #8 on: 00:40:08, 03-03-2007 »

The Lenten Fast is taken so seriously here that every cafe and restaurant inserts an extra page of "Lenten Menu" into its menus - I noticed last night on the way home from the Metro that even Steff's Hot-Dog Stand were offering "spicy vegetable pasty" during Lent.  Sadly falafels have not caught on here - I'd love some, Lent or otherwise!  I don't think it's much better here for veggie snack food, but pretty-much every rail, metro or bus-station is surrounded by a ring of kiosks and stands flogging hot snacks in a fold of greaseproof paper.  Cabbage Pies ("piroshki! piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiroshki!") were a traditional snack since the days when the proleteriat couldn't afford meat anyhow, and they're almost always on sale. (Another alternative filling is mashed potato - Dr Atkins wouldn't approve.)  The other favoured late-night greasy train-station food (we seem to eat a lot of this when gigging) are chebureki, a kind of cousin of the Middle Eastern boreka only with double the grease...  it's a sort of mutton pie made with flakey pastry.  We haven't got deep-fried Mars-Bar yet, though.

Was it a white shirt you got the ketchup stain on?  I'm sure that looked choice on the concert platform :-)
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« Reply #9 on: 00:49:48, 03-03-2007 »

It was a white shirt... Sad
But I was wearing a jacket and it was largely hidden by it  Smiley
Anyway, I was 'playing' the laptop and was placed in the centre of the audience by the mixing desk, so I wasn't terribly visible.

I have yet to attempt the cooking of falafel. I have a recipe and enough chickpeas to, well, do whatever you'd do with a lot of chickpeas, but I haven't quite got around to it yet.

Cabbage pies sound interesting. What kind of pastry are we talking?
Cabbage seems to be such a hit and miss affair with me. I never manage to cook it how I like it.
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« Reply #10 on: 05:52:40, 03-03-2007 »

Hiya

The cabbage pies are traditionally made from a bread-dough "pastry" (ie with yeast in it), so they have to be filled and then set to rise - each one is the size and shape of a half-size hot-dog bun when finished.  They're traditionally glazed with beaten egg, to look shiny when finished.  These "piroshki" are one of those things which survive multiple interpretations... from delicious and appetising in a baker's (why did I reply over breakfast? Now I want piroshki for breakfast!) through to sodden and crushed in a polythene wrapper from a babushka at the station at 4am.  Like any good Russian endeavour, they require inordinate painstaking preparation and toil from their preparers (who are almost inevitably female).  T-P ought to have a good recipe for these?   BTW T-P if you are reading, have you got a nice recipe for syrniki??  Smiley

One Sunday afternoon about three years ago I got the idea of trying to make my own falafel to satisfy a whim.  They were finally ready sometime on Wednesday after all the 24-hour chick-pea soaking, grinding, mashing, bashing and crashing involved.  I also managed to burn-out the motor in my foodprocessor in the process.  Finding sesame tahini sauce for them isn't an easy job in Moscow either, but if you have a Lebanese or Greek deli near you, you can buy it by the jar and dilute with water and lemon-juice.  Some health-food stores sell "falafel mix", but the one I used produced something more like sage'n'onion stuffing.
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« Reply #11 on: 15:59:07, 03-03-2007 »

I love cabbage pies. My grandmoter was good at making them. Here I am lazy to make small parcels and I am making big one pie and then cut it. It is not the same. It is much nicer to take the little parcel in your hand and eat it instead of losing cabbage all over the place. Never the less I am making big pie here instead of small pirozhki.
Syrniki are difficult to make here because of cottage cheese or lack of the proper cottage cheese. So one has to make one's own. I am making my from butter milk. I usually buy two cartons of buttermilk, put it into a big pot, cover and warm it on a very slow heat. Solids go on top and I just drain water. It is good quality cottage cheese.
I have a recepy for Zapekanka: cottage cheese -200g, 1 egg, 2 Table spoons of semolina and the same amount of sugar , raisens (can put dry fruits too). Just mix, put into an oven in an oven proof dish. It is ready quickly (when it is brown). I love it. But I think fried syrniki are better. I am going to ask my friend. It is done the same way, but with flower insted of semolina and no raisens.
I like Zapekanka.
Pirozhki are easy to make, but long if you make small parcels. The dough is like for yeast bread, easy to make.

It is almost the same like for Pizza, but with milk and butter (not olive oil).

I will write later if you still want it.


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« Reply #12 on: 16:32:50, 03-03-2007 »

I love the sound of that cottage cheese recipe, t-p. I think it's probably curd cheese you are making. It sounds a bit like the filling for Yorkshire Curd Tart, only that has lemon juice as well.

For your recipe, is egg the only liquid? What temperature is the oven? I'd like to try it sometime. I had it in St Petersburg, I think, but didn't know its name.
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« Reply #13 on: 16:39:49, 03-03-2007 »

It is usually moist because of cottage cheese (or whatever you call it). If it looks too dry to you it is possible to put some milk in it. It is not capricious recepy. I made it with only one egg and it was ok. It is not very sensitive to temperature either. I have oven with fan in it, so I put 170 - 190. It is not difficult to make, it is not too sweet (you can put more sugar if you like), it is not too fattening, easy to make. The dough is kind of hard, not running. There is no flower in it, so I can eat a lot without feeling too full.
You don't have to bake it for too long because it is almost done already, just so that it is a little brown. You can dust it with sugar powder.
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« Reply #14 on: 17:48:46, 03-03-2007 »

Thanks, t-p - it sounds lovely. I may not be able to find semolina in my local supermarket, except in ready made puddings Sad. I've just had a look at their website. Dozens of kinds of rice, lots of types of flour, but no semolina.
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