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oliver sudden
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« Reply #600 on: 21:37:53, 20-10-2007 »

I seem to be having problems with the modify function lately!  Cheesy
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« Reply #601 on: 21:38:22, 20-10-2007 »

Speaking of carbonara I'm a big fan of the creamless variety. Not the easiest thing to find, alas... in restaurants at least. Even in Venice (the only part of Italy I've been in for a couple of years) it seems to be generally 'con panna'... or is that just them making it the way they think the tourists will want it? Anyone know?
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« Reply #602 on: 21:50:20, 20-10-2007 »

Ollie,

The issue of whether to use cream or not in carbonara probably depends on which part of Italy you are in and whether dairy produce was widely available. In a recent BBC2 programme on Mediterranean cooking, Rick Stein was in Sardinia, where the big issue for the local chef was not the use of cream (although he didn't) but the type of cheese used - definitely Pecorino rather than Parmesan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/spaghettiallacarbona_86763.shtml

Btw, I use just a tablespoon of cream myself, added to an egg yolk and freshly grated Parmesan and pepper for the sauce.
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« Reply #603 on: 22:28:17, 20-10-2007 »

Yep, that Rick Stein recipe is what I think of when I think carbonara. I think I'm a little biased against cream because I'm in a country where it tends to get lathered on everything. I remember my horror when I first ordered a cappuccino in Köln and got a black coffee with whipped cream squirted on the top.

If I'm remembering that pecorino maturo right, it's pretty hard and tangy stuff - not actually all that far from parmesan. Mmmm. Wonder if I can find that here somewhere? I do know a great place in Stuttgart for it...  Cool
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« Reply #604 on: 16:31:36, 21-10-2007 »

Hi Ollie, nice to see you back. Peeped round the door of this thread and couldn't see any gruesome squid posts so I thought I'd risk a post.  Cheesy


If I'm remembering that pecorino maturo right, it's pretty hard and tangy stuff - not actually all that far from parmesan. Mmmm. Wonder if I can find that here somewhere? I do know a great place in Stuttgart for it...  Cool

Pecorino...I seem to recall this cheese in Sicily being terribly, unbearably salty - yuk!

I found a veggie Parmigiano in Waitrose, made in Italy but not called Parmigiano. It tastes and grates just the same though.

Also found an old teaching colleague in Waitrose I haven't seen for 20 years! She accosted me with the unflattering words "I've been through the alphabet 3 times and I still can't remember your name!" - as if I have an exotic name...

Jane  Grin
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« Reply #605 on: 15:57:19, 24-10-2007 »

Went to Sainsbury's today and managed to avoid buying any more 3Kg bags of penne.  Cheesy

Had some penne last night (from one of my 3Kg bags) and added diced swede to the tomato sauce I made for it. I find that both swede and turnip go very well with pasta though I prefer the former. I've also got some veggie "Parmesan" MJ, from Sainsbury's - it's made by Twineham Grange Farms in W Sussex and it's also an excellent substitute.
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« Reply #606 on: 00:01:45, 01-11-2007 »

I found a veggie Parmigiano in Waitrose, made in Italy but not called Parmigiano. It tastes and grates just the same though.

I went to Waitrose today and spent some time looking through all their cheeses but couldn't find any veggie "Parmigiano". Also couldn't find any tzatziki but I expect it was there somewhere - it's a fairly new shop and I've only been there 2 or 3 times. It's also pretty expensive.

More penne this evening, only 5.8 Kg to go!  Wink
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« Reply #607 on: 16:21:23, 03-11-2007 »

For Mort ce soir,  haricot beans stewed with garlic, onion, tomatoes and thyme. And a couple of chicken thighs chucked in.  Sorry to all veggies!
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« Reply #608 on: 16:31:20, 03-11-2007 »

Chez Antheil, ce soir, nous avons a fridge stuffed with a load of chillies and peppers which need to be used up so probably a chillie (vegetarian), but on the other flipper I have a most delicious looking Savoy cabbage which is calling out to me in a seductive manner.  Whatever option it will involve beans of some description.
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« Reply #609 on: 16:36:45, 03-11-2007 »

So that`ll be us full of beans then? Grin

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« Reply #610 on: 17:19:09, 03-11-2007 »

I have a kind of muttar paneer on the go in the oven right now.. I've substituted cubed tofu for the paneer, which you can't get here at all.   I've experimented with other cheeses,  but they all melt,  resulting in a kind of pea carbonara with coriander and cumin, which isn't entirely unpleasant in itself,  but is sadly a long way from the real thing from Southall Broadway.  You can get popadoms and even mango chutney here, so with some chilled Baltika beer and some grated cucumber and carrot in smetana filling the raita spot, all that's missing is the flock wallpaper and the fish-tank to complete the entire experience.  Oh, and of course, someone to ask "Is everything alright for you, Sir" once the dishes are on the table Smiley

I take comfort from the fact that The Eastern Room, who are the best Indian restaurant in town, don't have paneer either Smiley

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« Reply #611 on: 17:41:43, 03-11-2007 »

Reiner, I am no expert on Indian cookery but  paneer is pretty easy to make at home?  I have a Madhur Jaffrey recipe for it if you want?
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« Reply #612 on: 17:52:16, 03-11-2007 »

I had a go at it, once, Antheil...  it seemed to involve getting started several days before suppertime (already very unlikely for me...) and a lot of squeezing curds through muslin bags etc.  If your recipe offers any kind of inside-track to the final result, I'd be interested, though?

Meantime the Muttar Tofu emerged as being splendidly successful - I fried the tofu cubes over to crisp them a bit, and that makes a big difference.  Another handy idea is to freeze the tofu - when it defrosts it magically becomes a lot more munchable than previously.  I have actually had "muttar tofu" in a Hare Krishna cafe in Copenhagen - although perhaps Denmark isn't the acme of achievement in North Indian cuisine  Wink  I think I shall open a second can of Baltika to toast the success of the dish - the other half of the recipe will make a little reprise for Sunday lunch tomorrow Smiley
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« Reply #613 on: 18:09:18, 03-11-2007 »

Yes Reiner, recipe takes a couple of days ..... and muslin.  Not condusive to spur of the moment cooking is it?

I must admit I have never got to grips with tofu, perhaps I should remedy that?

I much prefer Thai to Indian food, I find it more subtle in its flavours.  I have a wonderful Middle Eastern Veggie Cookery book by Arto der Haroutunian (long out of print I suspect) but worth keeping an eye out for.
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« Reply #614 on: 18:25:16, 03-11-2007 »

Being a bit of a veggieburger myself,  I use tofu a lot - this may also have to do with it being on sale in the 24-hour supermarket across the road Smiley  I've never been to Thailand, but tofu seems to feature in the menus of Thai restaurants in London quite a bit?  I am not sure if that's because it's popular in Thai cuisine in Thailand, or more to lure old hippies like me through their doors?  Wink  It appeals to me, as it's a "centre" to a dish which doesn't require soaking for three days, peeling, picking, or filleting.  The downside is that it tastes of roof-insulation foam,  but if you splosh a bit of soy sauce, ginger or garlic around it as a marinade for a while (or dunk it in a curry) it can become quite palatable, and the calorie-count is enviably low.  The freezing/unfreezing thing (a tip I saw in The Grauniad once) is handy if you want a more "chewy" texture.  You can also make a no-fat mayonnaise substitute out of it in the blender (get the Japanese sort of tofu for best results in that sphere).  You can fry it in breadcrumbs for kids instead of fish fingers. Or you can insulate your loft with it.
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