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Author Topic: Meeting Life's Challenges & Upsets  (Read 26265 times)
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« Reply #285 on: 16:18:41, 21-08-2007 »

Ho dear MorticiaaaAAA.  Only you can make a decision but it does seem to me that you are being rather "put upon" in a somewhat one-side manner.  Keep smiling kid and go for the gin bottle - or, if you prefer, the throat.
Cheers and hugs,
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« Reply #286 on: 16:18:54, 21-08-2007 »

I for one suggest that you be brave and say it anyway, Mort. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but so far as I'm concerned, he's using you. A little pain now will save a great deal more later, trust me.
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« Reply #287 on: 16:21:05, 21-08-2007 »

Can I make the same suggestion that a friend of mine made to me?
Good. Cos I'm going to.
Have you thought about relationship counselling? Relate offer a good service (www.relate.org.uk) and you can go on your own or with your partner. Going there on my own actually helped me put everything into perspective and made it easier for Claire and me to split up. It's difficult when the other person won't talk or engage with their feelings - trust me I know! - and you may very well be right to put your foot down (but remember that just because he seems to be driving you towards that, it isn't necessarily what he wants), but counselling will help (well, it helped me).
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« Reply #288 on: 16:54:13, 21-08-2007 »

I am now perilously close to saying `stuff this for a game of soldiers`. Angry Angry 

What or which of your inner selves is stopping you saying it?

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« Reply #289 on: 16:58:06, 21-08-2007 »

Re: my posting of a few weeks ago, it looks as though I`ve definitely been upstaged by the Rolling flamin` Stones. After falling off the radar and adopting radio silence for 2 weeks while he has been `away` god-knows-where, he has returned in time for the concert tonight with his pal. I am now perilously close to saying `stuff this for a game of soldiers`. Angry Angry 

Lose him!  Plenty more fish in the sea as I mentioned before....

Take a leaf out of Milly's book.  Milly refuses to be upstaged and insists on being treated with respect or it's hasta la vista baby!   Grin
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« Reply #290 on: 17:06:38, 21-08-2007 »

I am now perilously close to saying `stuff this for a game of soldiers`. Angry Angry 

Just be sure not to forget the safe-word....
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« Reply #291 on: 17:07:50, 21-08-2007 »

I can sort of understand wanting to see the Rolling Stones, but I can't understand that AND two weeks of radio silence.

Might I add that another leaf from Milly's book says "We pass this way but once; this is not a rehearsal" ?

You deserve to be better treated, Morticia. Sorry if this is inappropriate from someone who doesn't know you, but then again, perhaps it carries all the more weight because of that.
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« Reply #292 on: 17:09:49, 21-08-2007 »

I am now perilously close to saying `stuff this for a game of soldiers`. Angry Angry 

What or which of your inner selves is stopping you saying it?

Tommo

Tommo,

Probably the `inner elf` that that thinks `How can all the good stuff just go down the pan like this?`. The other `elf` is saying `Through neglect, you ninny. Stuff this for a game of soldiers!`.

Maybe I need a House Elf to sort things out? <weak smiley emoticon) 

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« Reply #293 on: 21:37:11, 21-08-2007 »

Can I make the same suggestion that a friend of mine made to me?
Good. Cos I'm going to.
Have you thought about relationship counselling? Relate offer a good service (www.relate.org.uk) and you can go on your own or with your partner. Going there on my own actually helped me put everything into perspective and made it easier for Claire and me to split up. It's difficult when the other person won't talk or engage with their feelings - trust me I know! - and you may very well be right to put your foot down (but remember that just because he seems to be driving you towards that, it isn't necessarily what he wants), but counselling will help (well, it helped me).
I'm sorry, but I need to offer a very different view. I did try relationship counselling some years ago with my then partner, with Relate, and it was a big big mistake. One of the whole points of such things is that it should help the two of you to communicate, talk, more easily about all that's built up - in our case it had precisely the opposite effect - every single session there made it harder rather than easier to communicate. Of course it all depends on which counsellor you get, but in this case she was terrible - brash, loud, always pontificating rather than encouraging either of us to speak, coming to easy conclusions that sounded like they came from a first-year textbook, and so on. And wasting lots of time telling both of us why she doesn't like modern music! Oh, and she smelled a bit as well.

I do have a friend who works in both counselling and psychotherapy, and she would say not to touch Relate with a bargepole - the standards they require of their counsellors are apparently very questionable indeed. I would advise anyone not to go to them. This may have simply been a bad experience that is not representative (it might be different if one goes on their own - in this case both of us went), but I'd be surprised if others haven't had the similar experiences.
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« Reply #294 on: 21:49:24, 21-08-2007 »

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« Reply #295 on: 21:59:29, 21-08-2007 »

Mort, I'm so sorry you're in this distressing situation. Last year I discussed something with a counsellor at our local Citizens' Advice Bureau, and that really helped me. Perhaps I was lucky as he was a very good listener. He also gave me contact numbers and addresses of organisations which could further help me, and as a result of my talk with him I made a decision, and, more importantly, acted on it.

It does sometimes help to talk to a complete stranger. In my case it helped me to find the courage and confidence to go ahead.

I do so hope you will be able to find the strength to deal with your relationship and that you find real happiness, either with him or with someone else in the future.

MJ
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« Reply #296 on: 22:20:21, 21-08-2007 »

I don't really know anything about relationship counselling, and to be honest I think I'd have to be pushed very hard to go in for it, depending on the situation of course, but I don't think I've ever been in a situation where it would have made any difference. Having said that, I do know many people who have been helped by such things, mostly in terms of getting their own thoughts straightened out.

If I were you, though, Mort, I would be thinking it's about time to make an ultimatum. From what you've said I think Ron has hit the nail on the head: you're being used as a doormat and that really has to stop, one way or another.
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« Reply #297 on: 22:25:26, 21-08-2007 »

I realise my last post was wholly negative and did not offer any positive suggestions. Simply I would be loath to offer concrete advice to anyone I don't know that well in such a situation, or often with someone I do know well, unless I also know the other party well. As well as being through break-ups myself, I've also known so many other friends in such a situation, and all the self-justifying things either one of them says - almost invariably the situation is much more complex than you would imagine from talking to either one alone. The point is to be able to communicate properly about this, if that is at all possible. If you have a mature (in outlook, not age necessarily!) friend who really knows both of you, and neither of you try to make that person 'take sides', they just might be able to help, if both of you can talk to them individually. Very hard, though, and a big responsibility for the third party, but it sometimes can be the best way, I feel.
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« Reply #298 on: 22:29:05, 21-08-2007 »

Mort, you are worth more than this. He is using you. When he wants somewhere to come back to he appears... when he has something better to do , he disappears.
I can understand people wanting a bit of 'space' sometimes - but not this lack of communication.. he really should be telling you at least where he is and when he will be back... I think he could also tell you what he is doing ... IMHO.
You say you have been with him for a long time, but I really think you should get rid. He doesn't seem to be making you happy at all.

Just make the mental list... why do I like him?
                                     would I be better without him?
                                     when did he last say he loved/liked me?
                                     would I miss him?....why?
                                     when did I last enjoy his company?..... etc....
                                    
You are too nice for this Mort, there are others..........

Hang in there..xx A

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« Reply #299 on: 22:36:54, 21-08-2007 »

my advice is 'don't ask me,i have no idea'
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