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Author Topic: Meeting Life's Challenges & Upsets  (Read 26265 times)
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« Reply #255 on: 19:59:56, 07-08-2007 »

I came to the conclusion that I lost the ability to play by heart. I keep making mistakes and I feel stressed.
 May be years of playing only in ensembles with music in front of me was not good.

Also perhaps I am not a calibre of a soloist. I do like to accompany.
Strangely enough I got this ambition of playing a solo concert here and it is too late. I do get satisfaction in helping young people go through with their exams or begin playing short recitals first or even long ones.

Now I understand that it is stupid in my age to try to be so ambitious all the sudden, but I did drive myself to an exhaustion. I really can not teach, take care of the house and have a solo career.

Now that I have it off my chest I feel better.

And also I will try to avoid any changes in the house that are not necessary. To get rid of a wardrobe took so much out of me. Finally I had to have a party for friends and they moved the wardrobe into the shed.
The whole thing tipped me into exhaustion because I really did have a difficult year, teaching and accompanying.

My friends are housewifes and they don't understand me. I don't know prices and sales or if I do I can not get to them.

I don't think it is possible to understand my post because my thouights are so scattered. I think I was trying to do too much that is all. Now I will take it easy until the beginning of the year on the first of September. I hope to restore myself to good humour and reasonable good health.

I am so grateful to you all for noticing.
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« Reply #256 on: 20:16:58, 07-08-2007 »

To make sure that you visit us often, t-p, I'll start posting some more pictures soon...
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« Reply #257 on: 22:04:58, 07-08-2007 »

T-P, you have been missed, as you can tell. Please post away whenever you want to. You have friends here.  Smiley (Glad to hear you are out of the worst of your year.)
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« Reply #258 on: 01:21:00, 17-08-2007 »

So, I subjected upon many who were at the meeting last night the very depths of my predicament (as detailed here). It was hard going. I had to steel myself even to get there.

I can't tell you how much I'm dreading the coming year, where accompaniment will be playing a major role in my degree. All very social. Sad


This is terribly incoherent. I'll go to bed.
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« Reply #259 on: 08:57:47, 17-08-2007 »

ERUANDO,
It is very important to have a relax attitude and good expectations. For example, I am paying for too much negative emotions that I had during my last few years by muscle spasms that I developed. Doctors tell me to relax and friends tell me to be less intense.
I am going to try to follow.
May be I am becoming too fatalistic now and accept that many things in life can not be changed.

The most important thing is not to dread things because they usually turn out all right. If you prepare yourself mentally to good year it will turn out good.

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« Reply #260 on: 10:00:51, 17-08-2007 »

I think there's a false expectation (created by the media, no doubt) that everybody will get on easily with everybody else, and it's just not true: yes, some people find it easier to pass the time of day with others, but that's a purely superficial social skill, which is fine for lubricating the cogs and wheels of society, but isn't the stuff of making for a rounded personal life: for that you need closer relationships; the two are quite different, and although the superficial social skills may help in achieving these relationships, they're not a sine qua non. It's a case of finding the right kind of people. You've already managed that here in a virtual sense, so you don't lack the skills to engage and interact with folk per se.   

If we look at in musical terms for a minute, there are some who can sightread very easily, there are others who have to work at it really hard: there are some who are born improvisers and others who never pick up the skill. We're born with different strengths and weaknesses, eruanto: sometimes we all have to take stock of what we have by nature and what we need to work on. I know that this is never easy, but it will be even harder if you start convincing yourself that it's basically impossible. In any event, I have a feeling that you're confusing others' ability to get on easily on a purely superficial level with your present lack of close personal relationships, which, if they're to be  worthwhile, don't come ten-a-penny, especially for the more sensitive among us. But if you start off by thinking that it's something that you personally will never be able to  manage, you'll have created a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You are very single minded in your approach: music for you seems to be almost everything, and because you can't find many others who see the same way, that seems to be the hurdle: you're not interested in the football, the fashion or whatever other trivia those around you are involved in. Nor need you be; for what it's worth, Ron's tip is to be interested in the people themselves, rather than their interests: many folk respond to others actually taking interest in what's going right or wrong for them as cats do to stroking, and if you think you've got problems, then you'll soon discover that everybody else has too! Helping them may help you help yourself.

(Ron, as a child, was a particularly shy and introverted character: Ed's historical note.)
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« Reply #261 on: 10:37:37, 17-08-2007 »

I had to steel myself even to get there.

And you did get there!  And a pleasure to meet you too.

Tommo

PS - Meant to say that Ron is spot on, as always.  I hope it helps.  Being interested in people themselves just opens doors.  And it's really fulfilling to find that there are so many wondrous characters out there.
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« Reply #262 on: 11:03:24, 17-08-2007 »

I agree with Ron very much and I love his post very much.Tommo also gives a good point.
You got to the meeting at the end, got through small talk etc.

I see in myself that I don't like to see power play, agenda manipulation etc. I can see it here. It is so appauling to me that I got sick.
the most important thing is to be kind to yourself and like yourself. We all here like you very much and respect you too for your knowledge.
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« Reply #263 on: 16:06:52, 17-08-2007 »

I see in myself that I don't like to see power play, agenda manipulation etc. I can see it here. It is so appauling to me that I got sick.

I have to say that this is something I'll never quite be able to manage properly myself; I've come to be ery uncomfortable with competitiveness (insofar as I find myself drawn into competitive systems), though I understand its importance and seeming necessity.  As much as I hate the term, I'd much rather cooperate with people.

Your post was very sagely Ron Smiley

I think there's a false expectation (created by the media, no doubt) that everybody will get on easily with everybody else, and it's just not true

Alas indeed.  But there's something to be said about being able to get along with difficult people; that can often involve a much more intimate understanding of them than say one gets when dealing with a casual acquaintance.  At least that's the experience I've had with one fellow who was for many years my greatest torment; what made it possible in the end was that we both actually didn't actually want to be at each other's throats and, in some way, that we were on the same side.

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: yes, some people find it easier to pass the time of day with others, but that's a purely superficial social skill, which is fine for lubricating the cogs and wheels of society, but isn't the stuff of making for a rounded personal life: for that you need closer relationships; the two are quite different, and although the superficial social skills may help in achieving these relationships, they're not a sine qua non. It's a case of finding the right kind of people. You've already managed that here in a virtual sense, so you don't lack the skills to engage and interact with folk per se.   

When one gets started into life properly, one will have much more opportunity to find or make a comfortable place for one's self.  You're more tightly caught up in a system at the moment.

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In any event, I have a feeling that you're confusing others' ability to get on easily on a purely superficial level with your present lack of close personal relationships, which, if they're to be  worthwhile, don't come ten-a-penny, especially for the more sensitive among us.

This is an important distinction, I think, indeed!  Of course, what one person counts as a "superficial" type of relationship can be highly meaningful for (and valued to) others, though.

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You are very single minded in your approach: music for you seems to be almost everything, and because you can't find many others who see the same way, that seems to be the hurdle: you're not interested in the football, the fashion or whatever other trivia those around you are involved in.

For me, one of the best decisions I made in recent years was to move into a house with no students or people working in mathematical professions Smiley (other than our occasional tussles; the guy who pissed me off a while back moved out two weeks ago(to Australia), and I was genuinely sad to see him leave.  But, other people have to do the same when they're dealing with someone on this level; and this it seems might be one of the problems that you're encountering.

Have you tried out going to various clubs/societies in your college? You might be able to find the one or two good ones, but it might take several aborted attempts to find them.

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Nor need you be; for what it's worth, Ron's tip is to be interested in the people themselves, rather than their interests

I think this is a really important tip indeed!  Of course, when one is involved in a very solitary world it can be difficult, but it's not *that* difficult, and it is worthwhile; people can be understanding.  I occasionally have to remind myself of the sense in this; it wasn't always obvious to me that this was a reasonable thing to do.

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Helping them may help you help yourself.

That does sound horribly cliched(not that I can think of a better way of phrasing it!), but there's a lot of sense to it.  Of course, nobody is expecting you to become an agony aunt or anything Wink
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« Reply #264 on: 16:34:14, 17-08-2007 »

Have you tried out going to various clubs/societies in your college? You might be able to find the one or two good ones, but it might take several aborted attempts to find them.


I suspect that due to its size there may not be huge numbers of these, however you may find that you are also able to join societies at other colleges (e.g. Imperial).
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« Reply #265 on: 16:45:55, 17-08-2007 »

Have you tried out going to various clubs/societies in your college? You might be able to find the one or two good ones, but it might take several aborted attempts to find them.


I suspect that due to its size there may not be huge numbers of these, however you may find that you are also able to join societies at other colleges (e.g. Imperial).

Oh ok.  Or even if not join, you can still crash along I'm sure; people tend to be rather easygoing about such things!
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« Reply #266 on: 19:09:16, 17-08-2007 »

I can't tell you how much I'm dreading the coming year, where accompaniment will be playing a major role in my degree. All very social. Sad

I don't know all the circumstances that surround accompanying someone but might it not be a good opportunity - a way of meeting people but in a structured and semi-formal environment and one in which small talk is not essential?
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« Reply #267 on: 19:23:29, 17-08-2007 »

I like to accompany people very much. I learn from each one and play differently with each. I enjoy meeting people like and in a different profession I would not meet so many people.
There are people that like to play solo and don't enjoy ensemble playing. They are natural soloists. In  my case I get tired of piano sound. I love to hear different instruments. To me ensemble playing is much more satisfying than solo.

The next message is very good point too. Thank you.

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« Reply #268 on: 19:30:24, 17-08-2007 »

When accompanying people I have found that there is a lot of common interest (i.e. the piece that you are accompanying) to talk about.
This inevitably leads to good things, whether musical or not.

Good luck to you, I'm sure you will enjoy it.
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« Reply #269 on: 22:20:04, 17-08-2007 »

The next message is very good point too. Thank you.



t-p, you've become prophetic! Because the next message was!  Smiley
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