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Author Topic: Meeting Life's Challenges & Upsets  (Read 26265 times)
MabelJane
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« Reply #870 on: 21:54:03, 22-05-2008 »

I found out lately that no matter what the situation is I am to blame.
I find this quite sad to read, t-p. I do hope that if this is how you feel at times it's not a case of someone deliberately making you feel this way? You must try not to let yourself shoulder the blame when it's really not your fault. After reading so many of your uplifting and positive posts over the months, reminding us that bad times are followed by good times, I do hope that you have some good times coming up soon. PM me or email if you want to - I wish I could help you.

Love and hugs,

MJ
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« Reply #871 on: 22:13:31, 22-05-2008 »

I did not mean it in such a negative way.
I think I mean that one should not be too righteous after all I can only understand my point of view. At times I can glimps the other person point of view and I can see that from this point of view I could be wrong. the most important thing is not to feel bitter.

Somehow I understood lately that even if I reason with myself that I am right I find out later that from some people's point of view I am wrong.

I love your picture.  Kiss Kiss Kiss


Somehow I was trying to make a positive statement, but it came out wrong.


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« Reply #872 on: 22:13:52, 22-05-2008 »

Anyway t-p you're wrong. Sorry to knock you off your pedestal, so to speak, but actually it's ME that's always to blame!!!!  Grin

unless there's two of us of course.
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« Reply #873 on: 22:22:25, 22-05-2008 »

I did not mean it in such a negative way.

Somehow I was trying to make a positive statement, but it came out wrong.

I am happy to read this, t-p.

I think I mean that one should not be too righteous after all I can only understand my point of view. At times I can glimps the other person point of view and I can see that from this point of view I could be wrong. the most important thing is not to feel bitter.

Somehow I understood lately that even if I reason with myself that I am right I find out later that from some people's point of view I am wrong.

This reminds me of cognitive behaviour therapy.

But don't do yourself down, t-p. Your own view of a situation needn't be wrong just because someone else views it differently.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #874 on: 22:34:57, 22-05-2008 »

I am happy to read this, t-p.

As am I Smiley
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« Reply #875 on: 10:37:51, 23-05-2008 »

You are very special t-p.

Thanks for the Bruch Octet recommendation, the disc finally arrived a couple of weeks ago - I ordered it this time last year!

Hope you are feeling happier today.

xx Jan xx
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« Reply #876 on: 12:15:04, 23-05-2008 »

I am so glad you have rear piece by Bruch. For many people Bruch is associated with violin concerto only.
I think may be we are both special (no one is allowed to belittle oneself).
I am much happier. I was so frustrated that it is taking so long.

I hope you are making plans for another trip. Whenever I see caravan car I am remember you .
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« Reply #877 on: 13:25:00, 23-05-2008 »

Bruch was once principal conductor in Liverpool, He's supposed to have hated it!
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« Reply #878 on: 15:50:10, 23-05-2008 »

Which? conducting or Liverpool ? Wink Wink

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« Reply #879 on: 22:12:35, 23-05-2008 »


I've said before, and I'll say again (and probably again and again) that just a little bit of walking every day can help to get things moving: the weather's starting to get better(ish), so you should be able to stroll round the block or a bit further. You're not far from the sea, are you? Can you go and walk along the shore? The sound of waves is a great way to clear out those stale silences inside your head. Or a stream, or open country with birdsong - things to get you to use your ears without actually having to think of the sounds as music. Allow yourself as much you-time as you can, but not in your usual surroundings. Just somewhere peaceful that's easy to get to.

Take care of yourself,

Ron

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« Reply #880 on: 11:59:54, 24-05-2008 »

I just want to say hello to everyone here who is having problems, you are not alone and this place is really good as a support network for such things.  As I said earlier, I am here if anyone needs to talk.

Thank you to all of those who have helped / will help me in the future.
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« Reply #881 on: 16:28:59, 24-05-2008 »

Thanks Jonathan, you are kind  Grin

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« Reply #882 on: 00:43:46, 29-05-2008 »

The reverse of the coin is that when things do start to delight you again, the delight is intense. I think really stable people do not experience this delight to the same extent, so there are perhaps advantages in being a moody, depressive person.

A therapist I went to said more or less the same: if we experiences the depth, we are more likely to experience the heights, like having a piano with a wider range of notes.  With a smaller range, you will not experience the extremes.

Two things not mentioned.

One is doing little acts of care and love.  We may not feel loving, but we can act loving.  Feelings are important, but we are NOT our feelings.  Those of us who can be moody and depressive must do our best not to allow our moods and depression to hurt others.
I'm slowly catching up with all the threads I've missed, but I just wanted to thank DB for this.

Also ... there've been times in the last 3 or 4 weeks I've really wanted to log on here and just say hello or take a look around, but it would have meant losing track of which threads I'd read and which were new, so I had to wait until I had the energy to tackle them all. But I have missed people.
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« Reply #883 on: 01:22:16, 29-05-2008 »

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« Reply #884 on: 02:17:48, 29-05-2008 »

Also ... there've been times in the last 3 or 4 weeks I've really wanted to log on here and just say hello or take a look around, but it would have meant losing track of which threads I'd read and which were new, so I had to wait until I had the energy to tackle them all. But I have missed people.
I hadn't noticed that you were gone (again), but then I haven't been about too much either. I hope all's well.

Ian, I don't personally think that what you did was a bad thing as such; it probably had to be done at some time.  I think that, given how far in she was, it wasn't going to be possible to do it in any nicer a way.  She had, you said, been informed of her failings in these regards earlier (in the day? or in the course of her PhD studies?), and that evidently (if the latter is the case) didn't work.

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I think her work could be rescued, if it is much more focused, and takes account of a much wider range of perspectives on the issues she's dealing with - or else she will certainly fail, unless there are some ridiculously over-generous external examiners.
You should probably tell her the first part of that (I'd leave out the second, though).
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