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Author Topic: Who, what, when, where, why?????  (Read 19622 times)
John W
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« Reply #705 on: 00:40:36, 27-09-2007 »

Fullmarks to Olly!

Q. Moog
R. viola d'amore
S. crumhorn
T. hurdy-gurdy
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richard barrett
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« Reply #706 on: 00:45:45, 27-09-2007 »

archiorgano?
That's close enough... as you previously suspected it's an instrument with a 31-tone keyboard, it's called an archiphone and was devised by Anton de Beer (the first one was made in 1970), as an improvement upon the older instrument which was designed by A.D.Fokker in the 1940s.

More here.
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« Reply #707 on: 00:56:43, 27-09-2007 »

Here's something else to thicken the plot.

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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #708 on: 11:09:17, 27-09-2007 »

1. WHO was the lady?

-oOo-

2. Of WHAT building did this room form part and WHAT was its purpose?

-oOo-

3. WHERE was this photograph taken and WHO was it in the foreground?

-oOo-

4. HOW are the three photographs connected?
Wild guesses are welcome and indeed encouraged.
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« Reply #709 on: 16:25:32, 27-09-2007 »

Richard's Third Man-ish guitar is, I believe, a bandura.
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« Reply #710 on: 16:32:43, 27-09-2007 »

Richard's Third Man-ish guitar is, I believe, a bandura.
This is true. Leaving the nasty-looking thing at the top. Ready to be put out of your misery yet, people?
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« Reply #711 on: 16:35:50, 27-09-2007 »

Some very silly name like a Stratolin or a Viocaster?
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« Reply #712 on: 16:43:59, 27-09-2007 »

I believe the venue at the centre of Syd's triptych may be the salon of a dirigible?

BTW the bandura is still in regular use in Ukraine & Russia, primarily to accompany folksong... I saw someone busking with one in Kiev just three weeks ago,  outside St Volodymyr's Cathedral.

Meantime, here are three more unlikely instruments:







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« Reply #713 on: 16:47:26, 27-09-2007 »

Some very silly name like a Stratolin or a Viocaster?
I think I'll have to give you that one - it's actually a TogaMan GuitarViol, and comes also in an acoustic version. Like the Arpeggione in its own time, it's a guitar whose body-shape, bridge and fretboard are adapted for bowing, and apparently if can be played both as a "leg-viol" and strapped on in familiar electric-guitar style.

I have a CD of Ukrainian bandura music which is rather beautiful.
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« Reply #714 on: 16:51:16, 27-09-2007 »

archiorgano?
That's close enough... as you previously suspected it's an instrument with a 31-tone keyboard, it's called an archiphone and was devised by Anton de Beer (the first one was made in 1970), as an improvement upon the older instrument which was designed by A.D.Fokker in the 1940s.

More here.

Oh yes; I rather like some of the pieces on the CD that you can get from there.  But not many of them. :/  Will have give it another listen I think.
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« Reply #715 on: 16:52:41, 27-09-2007 »

Reiner's second looks like an ophicleide-serpent-type thing and the third is a morin khuur or Mongolian horse-head fiddle, is it not? The first one is a bit of a mystery though. Does it have a brass-type mouthpiece or does a reed go in the end?
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« Reply #716 on: 16:56:45, 27-09-2007 »

it's actually a TogaMan GuitarViol, and comes also in an acoustic version. Like the Arpeggione in its own time, it's a guitar whose body-shape, bridge and fretboard are adapted for bowing, and apparently if can be played both as a "leg-viol" and strapped on in familiar electric-guitar style.
I want the acoustic one. I like the colour.
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« Reply #717 on: 17:11:30, 27-09-2007 »

That first one of Reiner's - is it a sort of oliphant? Do they have holes?

Another:

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« Reply #718 on: 17:26:05, 27-09-2007 »

I believe the venue at the centre of Syd's triptych may be the salon of a dirigible?
I thought that it could be the salon of the Titanic...
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« Reply #719 on: 17:47:00, 27-09-2007 »

Fie on ye for shame, Richard...  my top pic is the closest to home of all for you Wink

But quite right, Muurin Khur it is for the third one, the horse-head lyre of the Siberian & Mongolian steppes.  Properly speaking half the hair of the bow is supposed to pass around the upper of the two strings (ie so that the string is "wedged" by horsehair both back and front) so that you can never take the bow "off" the instrument... although most modern players (who tend to play modern strings too these days) prefer not to do this.

The big dragon-looking thing is an ophicleide...  which developed from a largely keyless predecessor which was a kind of straightened serpent,  intended for use in military bands (where the serpent's ungainly form made use on foot inconvenient).  The dragon-head was a Russian addition, and the straight keyless proto-ophicleide was sometimes called the Russian Bassoon (of course, it wasn't a reed instrument, although it was similar to a bassoon in appearance).  They had descended from bass versions of the Russian bark-birch rozhok, orginally found in SATB sizes, and for which a small repertoire of part-music still exists.  (The C18th liberal aristocrat Count Scheremetyev taught his serfs to play rococo music in rozhok bands,  and other landowners took up the idea.  Moscow's modern international airport, Scheremetyevo, is located on his former farmland).  Although trumpets, clarinets etc took over the upper parts in military music, the Russian bassoon (and subsequently the ophicleide) plodded on until the late C19th in both France and Russia.  The ungainly scramble one hears with modern tubas in Tchaikovsky's works (viz the rapid arpeggios in the MAZEPPA overture that precede the ff tutti) should be ophicleides...  presumably they wouldn't sound like an explosion in a sousaphone factory if they were? Wink


rozhoks (properly rozhki)

PS There's a short sound excerpt from a Kummer piece, "Variations for Ophicleide", played by Nick Byrne, here: http://www.ophicleide.com/audio/03_Track_3.wma

PPS The rozhok is, essentially, a straight cornett (although I don't think it's related to the straight cornett mentioned by Praetorius as a "stille Zink", effectively a "mute cornett" - but who knows?).  They're still made and played in the countryside in Russia - I must try and get one someday?
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