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I think the words are from Alexander Pope's Summer, but I will check. If so they were an addition to Congreve's original libretto for Eccles.
Yes, they don't write them like that any more. Eccles: Are you Neddie Seagoon? Seagoon: I am. Eccles: Oh, good. You been waiting long? Seagoon: Yes. Eccles: Who for? Seagoon: You, you idiot! Eccles: Oh! Fine.
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Click me -> About meor me -> my handmade storeNo, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm only a halfwit. In fact I'm actually a catfish.
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« Reply #4231 on: 06:18:14, 28-08-2008 » |
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Ahh yes Semele. Anther of Handel's great choral pieces. I am fine thanks tp
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« Reply #4232 on: 06:24:54, 28-08-2008 » |
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I was at a lunch time concert yesterday with my student plays bassoon as well as the piano. He was not invited to play. Do you play piano too?
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« Reply #4233 on: 06:27:09, 28-08-2008 » |
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Yeah, I play piano to.
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« Reply #4234 on: 06:37:51, 28-08-2008 » |
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I can only play piano. Trombon student is going to come today. I don't remember if he canceled his lesson or not. I hope he did not. He played Purcell's Hornpipe and Bach's Menuet and started classical piece last time. He is a good person. I teach his grandson, who is going to be in 3rd grade and his nephew who is in 5th grade. His grandson did not want to play at all. He has started to play in a brass band last year.His mother plays in the brass band too. He has no father, no siblings and is sad some times. He has strong character. tp
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« Reply #4235 on: 13:45:30, 28-08-2008 » |
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I keep being brought up short by George's new signature. It reminds me of what I always say about the 'new musicologists': a generation of people with a traditional training in the classical repertoire effectively legitimising the failure to pass that on to their students. The next generation of musicologists will look very different - a Susan McClary who only knows Madonna is rather different from a Susan McClary who's turned her back on Monteverdi.
Pauline Kael's in a different league, of course, but still, it's a moving admission of a sort of failure achieved with the best intentions (and by no means clear that she's saying they had any alternative, of course: not to take an interest in the 'trash culture' would have been equally or more mistaken).
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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richard barrett
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« Reply #4236 on: 13:52:55, 28-08-2008 » |
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I keep being brought up short by George's new signature. It reminds me of what I always say about the 'new musicologists': a generation of people with a traditional training in the classical repertoire effectively legitimising the failure to pass that on to their students. The next generation of musicologists will look very different - a Susan McClary who only knows Madonna is rather different from a Susan McClary who's turned her back on Monteverdi.
Pauline Kael's in a different league, of course, but still, it's a moving admission of a sort of failure achieved with the best intentions (and by no means clear that she's saying they had any alternative, of course: not to take an interest in the 'trash culture' would have been equally or more mistaken).
Very astute observations as ever, Mr Now, which I may have to quote you on some time. I normally operate from the Recent Posts page where signatures don't appear so I'm not usually aware of who has what and when they change. What is yours all about BTW?
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« Reply #4237 on: 14:21:26, 28-08-2008 » |
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What is yours all about BTW?
Mine? It's from a film clip - takes him a while to warm up, but worth watching. (The quote's around 4'/4'30".) I'm generally quite interested in the idea of ghosts.
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #4238 on: 14:23:07, 28-08-2008 » |
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it's a moving admission of a sort of failure achieved with the best intentions That's what I found rather touching and wryly endearing about it, not least because I think most failures are. It probably won't last very long as my bikini strap line but I thought I'd give it a brief airing.
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« Reply #4239 on: 14:33:02, 28-08-2008 » |
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it's a moving admission of a sort of failure achieved with the best intentions That's what I found rather touching and wryly endearing about it, not least because I think most failures are. It probably won't last very long as my bikini strap line but I thought I'd give it a brief airing. Before you take it away, what's your source please?
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« Reply #4240 on: 14:38:57, 28-08-2008 » |
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I don't know if this is where George got it from, but Mr Google took me to http://www.nationalpost.com/story-printer.html?id=5f09359a-f961-4c63-86aa-da0d2741a100. Paul Schrader also has a revealing formulation there, suggesting that Kael had 'won the battle but lost the war': "It was fun watching the applecart being upset," Schrader said, "but now where do we go for apples?"
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #4241 on: 15:13:36, 28-08-2008 » |
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It was indeed that article which I happened upon because it turned up on this site http://www.aldaily.com/ which I take a gander at every so often to see what has washed up there. It's often an interesting mixture of things that make the blood boil and things that I can nod sagely at. A bit like here really .
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #4242 on: 15:21:32, 28-08-2008 » |
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Ahh yes Semele. Anther of Handel's great choral pieces. I am fine thanks tp
Semele is indeed a thing of wonder and a joy, but I would hardly call it a choral piece. There is the short opening chorus only comes on after an accompagnato for bass, the choir only get to sing at the end of Act 2, IIRC, and generally they are doing a refrain to a piece started by the soloists -bit like Gilbert and Sullivan. You could almost put it on without a choir.
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« Reply #4243 on: 17:05:47, 28-08-2008 » |
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On the other hand, is it any worse to have students who have not learned about Monteverdi than students (and teachers) who know little about Madonna (particularly in a future era when she may no longer be active)? How much is one likely to learn about the latter (or the Spice Girls, or whatever) at many of the more hallowed higher educational institutions? And what in particular do students primarily interested in popular culture gain from learning about Monteverdi?
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #4244 on: 17:09:48, 28-08-2008 » |
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Monteverdi knew how to write a catchy tune over a simple bass line and within a repetitive structure that somehow manages never to get tedious. How he did so ought to be interesting to students of today's pop, which often struggles with the above skills.
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