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Author Topic: Faking the sound of an old record  (Read 364 times)
stuart macrae
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« on: 17:19:48, 04-09-2008 »

Does anyone know a program or plug-in to make a nice, clean modern recording sound like a late 40s-50s record (also played back on old equipment)? I'm trying to make one for a music-theatre piece I'm working on.

So far I've managed to get a little pitch-wobble (or 'wow' - but I can't specify the frequency exactly) and some old-fashioned reverb (not sure how authentic) and filtering. So what I really need now is the surface noise and crackle of an old, worn record (ideally at 45rpm I think). Of course I have plenty of records that sound like that, but they all have other music on them  Roll Eyes

Anyone got any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: 17:28:24, 04-09-2008 »

Is this small sample any good or do you need a more protracted recording?
I just googled for sample+lp and it came up. Perhaps googling for sample+45 or sample+78 might get you something...
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« Reply #2 on: 17:38:28, 04-09-2008 »

 Your 45s must have a run-out groove, Stuart: I'd record a selection of them and then create waves of 1.333 seconds or multiples thereof: normalise them and splice them digitally together in random groups until you have enough to run past the length you need. That will give you the right surface noise with the correct cyclical pattern.

Open a new file with 4 tracks (or 2 if you're working in mono): the new music is assigned to tracks 1 and 2 (or 1) the surface noise to tracks 3 and 4 (or 2). Allow a lead-in before the music, to set the 'atmosphere', then play around until you get the right balance, before mixing down. You'd probably be advised to filter the music track, too, so that it has the right sonic signature: a mid-range boost, with high and low filters 'in' would get close: restricting its dynamic range, would probably help, too.
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« Reply #3 on: 18:19:43, 04-09-2008 »

Brilliant! Thanks for the advice chaps, that gives me plenty to go on!

Now, I wonder where else one could have obtained such advice from reliable sources, within 20 minutes of first asking...? Amazing. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 18:58:10, 04-09-2008 »

Stuart, the plugin you want is probably this one, Izotope Vinyl - you can tweak things like amount of wear on the record, dust, scratches and so on. It's free and comes in all reasonable formats.
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« Reply #5 on: 19:01:25, 04-09-2008 »

Far better still: thanks, r.
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« Reply #6 on: 19:51:08, 04-09-2008 »

Thanks Richard - that's a lovely little program! Should do the trick.  Cool
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« Reply #7 on: 02:40:34, 16-11-2008 »

Only just seen this thread. Stuart, if you listen to the beginning of track 9 on this CD (which I'm assuming you might own, but if not, send me a PM or something ...), you'll hear very much the kind of noise you're describing. In fact it's the music from the start of track 8, played live but with an electronic sound-sample added. I'm sure one could find out how the composer created the sample in question, although I expect there are as many ways of doing it as there are composers seeking to create that sort of effect.
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