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« on: 10:44:16, 09-04-2007 » |
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I'm glad to see Imogen Holst having a day to herself in this week's series of Holst programmes.
Although I think her talent as a composer was slight and fragile (i.e.easily dismissed) she was a fascinating character with a voice of her own and didn't just echo Dad. I think of her as an example of a type of person who used to be frequently seen and heard but which is now almost extinct. They had something to say of value, and it woud be valuabletoday as well, Inthink.
Forminstamnce,I remember her saying 'avoid saying anything negative to a choir;always tell them "more this,or more that";put it positively.'
Soon after that I saw a famous conductor rehearse a youth orchestra,repeatedly stopping them and shouting 'No! Don't do that!' etc. They looked thoroughly disheartened after a while.
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« Reply #1 on: 21:38:18, 10-04-2007 » |
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I like this program very much. Right now I am listening to a song for mezzo soprano and violin. I don't think there are many pieces of music for this combination. It is lively piece, very melodius. I never thought of this combination of instruments.
It is not good to say in negative way when teaching too. It is not good to say: Don't do that to anybody. Better to say things in a way Imogen says.
It is strange that Holst did not think about Planets as his best music. The success was a distress for him.
As it often happens we want success, but it brings more problems than we expected.
Thank you for this thread smittims.
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« Reply #2 on: 21:46:26, 10-04-2007 » |
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didn't just echo Dad Few daughters do, actually. I heard the BBC Symphony Chorus (in a church gig without the orchestra) do a set of five lovely partsongs by her last summer. Think it was the first - or first complete - performance, though I can't seem to remember a title or who the texts were by right now. I do know that it was subsequently broadcast on The Choir - maybe one of our regular listeners can remind me? |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #3 on: 21:51:52, 10-04-2007 » |
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thet=y were the imaginatively titled 'Five Songs for SSSAA', and they were spectacular, weren't they?
if i remember, the concert ended with VWs mass in g minor, and started with ligeti.
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« Reply #4 on: 22:10:28, 10-04-2007 » |
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Don't remember any Ligeti, but you're right about the VW (which was preceded by something else long and seemingly unrelated to the rest of the programme, though again my brain seems to have a hole in it there).
There was also a rather impressive setting of the text 'The royal banners forward go' by Jonathan Harvey.
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #5 on: 22:37:39, 10-04-2007 » |
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Going back to Smittims' original post, I recall a story about David Willcocks rehearsing The Hymn of Jesus and getting more and more irate because he couldn't get the choir to sing with the right sort of rhythmic lift and verve. Imogen Holst then got on to the platform, danced a few steps - and the music came to life.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #6 on: 13:44:43, 12-04-2007 » |
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Oh, I've just put my ideas (such as they are) on another thread, the "Holst folks" one.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #7 on: 13:49:59, 12-04-2007 » |
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I just wish someone would publish her journals. From the quotations I've seen, they would be very good reading.
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« Reply #8 on: 09:35:24, 14-04-2007 » |
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I finally got to listen again and listened to Imogen's music. I liked songs for acapella femail chorus (based on poetry from was it 16 century) I loved it very much.
Also the last quartet and piece for cello Fall of a leaf was good. The theme of a last quartet is similar with Host's music in the subject river Themes and in one of the themes she got from her father's sketches. How fascinating the whole father daughter connection.
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #9 on: 10:36:51, 23-04-2007 » |
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Imogen Holst's First String Quartet (1946) may be heard here: http://www.sr.se/cgi-bin/P2/kanalarkiv.asp?ProgramId=2480&NrOfDaysInArchive=7played by the Brindisi Quartet on the excellent Swedish "Lyssna Igen" (id est "Listen Again"). Look for the 12th of April, item four. The excellent Norman Lebrecht, who always has something interesting to say, describes this quartet as "serious and lyrical, though entirely unsentimental, suggesting a strength of purpose that she subjugated willingly to male masters." |
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« Reply #10 on: 09:19:52, 25-04-2007 » |
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Thank you Mr Sidney Grew for the link. Radio 3 makes good programs often.
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